From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoyingly cautious make rules Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:42:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83ehwnc97k.fsf@gnu.org> <4ED917E2.7020807@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED94331.7030702@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED98EED.5020301@cs.ucla.edu> <4EDA8356.50609@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322944982 24531 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2011 20:43:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 20:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andreas Schwab , Stefan Monnier , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 21:42:58 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RWwQB-0006BB-K9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:42:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45608 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWwQA-0000TX-T8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:42:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53631) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWwQ8-0000TS-OU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:42:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWwQ7-0007pu-UC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:42:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:43072) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWwQ7-0007pq-QD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:42:51 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWwQ6-0005SK-45; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:42:50 -0500 X-Spook: rail gun lynch airframe quiche KGB target USCODE Craig X-Ran: Y5enP+Qxz8Q=vg+m9ACf3m!ur2QSicvZT/.kh&Ce*[G$J':Q]fW,.*.gfrS?^@'eRO~Km^ X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <4EDA8356.50609@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:15:18 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146470 Archived-At: Paul Eggert wrote: > It's vital sometimes, but usually not. For example, if you look > at the last 10 changes to configure.in (in bzrs 106255 through 106559), > only one (bzr 106532) has any relevance to any of the platforms that we > routinely develop Emacs on. That's a call you're qualified to make, but not everyone who builds Emacs from bzr is, or will expect to have to. So, again, my opinion is that if you find these delays annoying, you should disable-maintainer-mode for your own use. I agree that the term "maintainer-mode" is now confusing, and that it would be good to either remove the option altogether, or rename --disable-maintainer-mode to --enable-loose-dependency-checking or somesuch. But such a change doesn't seem suitable for 24.1.