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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnu.org>, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: Sweeter Emacs Lisp
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:07:28 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3f0a112-ef20-42b0-81d0-f48e60469389@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874nbv595b.fsf@zigzag.favinet>

>    [...] but AFAICS, car and cdr are way more used than first and
>    rest... the latter were half-hearted attempts at making lisp
>    "friendly" but have never seemed to have gotten much traction;
>    whether they're better is at best, arguable...
> 
> CAR and CDR are cool because they align vertically nicely.

Not to mention the coolness of cadr, cdar, caar, cddr, and all the
rest (Common Lisp, at least).  Their names tell you what they do,
no matter how complex the operation (e.g. cdaadr).

That's not a reason not to define meaningfully named access macros
for particular contexts.  And it's not a reason not to allow `first'
etc. macros or `nth', `elt', `aref' etc. functions.

It's just to point out a very useful naming pattern that, once one
gets used to it, is beyond compare.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-16 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-14  2:22 Sweeter Emacs Lisp fgallina
2013-07-14 11:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-14 11:53   ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-07-14 12:38     ` Aurélien Aptel
2013-07-14 13:25     ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-07-14 14:16     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-14 14:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-07-14 16:27   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-14 19:43     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-07-15  3:20   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-15  5:03     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-07-16 20:23       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-17 14:04         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-07-17 15:07           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-07-16  2:15   ` Miles Bader
2013-07-16  9:12     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-14 16:18 ` Josh
2013-07-14 16:30   ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-14 17:14     ` Josh
2013-07-14 17:18       ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-15  6:05         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2013-07-15  7:04   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-15 13:30     ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-07-16  2:26       ` Miles Bader
2013-07-16  6:08         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-07-16 14:07           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2013-07-16  9:11       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-14 17:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-16  2:13 ` Miles Bader
2013-07-16  6:14   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-07-16  9:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-16 11:09     ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-16 12:25       ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-16 13:04         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-07-16 13:42         ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-16 14:38           ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-16 14:42             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-16 20:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-22 15:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-22 16:33   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-07-22 21:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-23  4:37       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-08-10  2:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-10 10:08         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-08-10 16:27           ` Drew Adams

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