From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "paul r" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Feature Request : autoload-form Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:44:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20080331143110.0c38e2e7@reforged> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207140273 30111 80.91.229.12 (2 Apr 2008 12:44:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Mike Mattie , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 02 14:45:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jh2Kt-0004tH-1z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:45:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jh2KG-0006xu-Oy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:44:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jh2KC-0006xZ-FX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:44:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jh2K9-0006we-0J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:44:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jh2K8-0006wa-PQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:44:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.187]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jh2K8-0008Cs-Kj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:44:16 -0400 Original-Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 26so3572149fkx.10 for ; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:44:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=23/2035DuQM3+sTTn+8HYpJtaH17k8ev1SXUQ4gxtHU=; b=FZLAl89Js1ZGqdTWNcZk51couqp4ZeMbASlOn09eMIZsDf2rD5xt3YSUgCsyCChRHQgykpbVZUKa1gfhlpFF/wWeQdKkE9xfDWfJzzCn4XeZDejuvp+GZS1a1Q4TaQJjQdHJGyTMoMi77A8cjW72CYBnMSyjAYcpjIIZoPatmJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BxKOsx/tACDNZufnp3b8Yb8GnOPOhGxE6hRRrwXIWpU+ZHSipF9/x3Plx0+bjIm7CRuCFVnhnjms1PQ80z34/AjMKvNA3j0Ju4eKKe/hi5nyTDVmtBlcS+sNROkhZexzLT3euNUUss9R2ipMJ59INXW1qJ7wb8lIt3OVECIIXUY= Original-Received: by 10.82.123.8 with SMTP id v8mr22461009buc.30.1207140251066; Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:44:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Apr 2008 05:44:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94188 Archived-At: 2008/4/2, Richard Stallman : > The standard way is to put them in the directories that Emacs looks in: > /usr/local/share/emacs/VERSION/site-lisp and > /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp. - It is not writable as a user - it is not user-specific - there is no standard repository where to get librairies from - there is no standard way to fetch them - there is no automatic mean to keep them up to date. Emacs need a packaging system to give satisfactory solution to all theses problems. I know it has already been discussed here, and I do not aim to restart the debate (yet). But the proper, and universal way, to distribute such a large piece of software, is through a packaging system. Be the repositories under full control of the FSF.