From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "paul r" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:42:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87myopnj0l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20080324200911.GA1310@muc.de> <001e01c88dee$34267e90$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <20080324210229.GB1310@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206906210 6716 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2008 19:43:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "M Jared Finder" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 30 21:44:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jg3Rb-0006Tb-Ac for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:43:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg3Qz-0004mY-H9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:43:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg3Q0-0003mt-5G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:42:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg3Py-0003km-Fa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:42:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg3Py-0003kY-5a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:42:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.155]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jg3Px-0003bX-Q8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:42:13 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so1696109fga.30 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:42:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=YgKhbH4bkE0mvQAiX6hOaHkVMwagCDo0wdGsc7QzFoY=; b=ABJR/gxK1pybgZIzsOJpMbv8maKL8oTh06jI/0Gyz2AGwjGLLIPV7JT5pv4aqk4VOzK/405YmcNpk4y+TK6ZZv6sFTH3sAOjmPaXqAKcKMlPHXVcSudfcXC7FeIHAGZdSeUnj4shYx6cMdynteal5FmkI7DBd70Q4iAeS0V8uG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kybtJaqE0uYYTrxuP3mI0quYBW/z7lZxp6a2/3rpB666yl7y4EKTY06iMdgF5QRB1f/pWH9we+nGnM+eJJ248jG/9nIOdLL3iCREN0sf7zglf4QOTkBCFizMqp1yqtfy1ZuFHjtX1mqoJDfHPtcDk0LccGYBmP6PRTEmMf73DVE= Original-Received: by 10.82.121.20 with SMTP id t20mr13198360buc.20.1206906132191; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:42:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:93932 Archived-At: 2008/3/30, M Jared Finder : > If you want to keep users coming to Emacs to stay with Emacs, cua-mode > should be on by default. Although I hope your POV is a bit extremist as of today, I think you stated clearly the general trend. As I previously said between lines, I'm experiencing similar behaviour of people giving up emacs after a few days because of unacceptable (to them) drop in their "productivity".