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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, akrl@sdf.org
Subject: Re: Reliable after-change-functions (via: Using incremental parsing in Emacs)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 00:21:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e2e6084c-da7b-5cf5-7b58-abe51dd71dda@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837dyzyyzg.fsf@gnu.org>

On 01.04.2020 19:03, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc:akrl@sdf.org,casouri@gmail.com,monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
>>   emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> From: Dmitry Gutov<dgutov@yandex.ru>
>> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:27:43 +0300
>>
>> On 01.04.2020 17:10, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> But in any case, it should be trivially obvious that avoiding to parse
>>> the entire buffer will make redisplay faster.  We should try doing
>>> that instead of giving up, even if we think the current fontification
>>> machinery is slow enough to make the parsing delay not so visible.
>> I think it's pointless to argue against the current design of TreeSitter
>> here, where none of its developers can read it.
> If by TreeSitter you mean the parser (not the Emacs package which
> interfaces it), then what I proposed is not against their design,
> AFAIU.  They provide an API through which we can let the parser access
> the buffer text directly, and they explicitly say that the parser is
> tolerant to invalid/incomplete syntax trees.  And I don't see how it
> could be any different, since when you start writing code, it takes
> quite some time before it becomes syntactically complete and valid.

That makes sense, at least in theory. But I'd rather not break the usage 
assumptions of the authors of this library right away. And we'll likely 
want to adopt existing addons which use the result of the parse, which 
likely depend on the same assumptions.

Anyway, here's a (short) discussion on the topic of large files: 
https://github.com/tree-sitter/tree-sitter/issues/222



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-01 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-29 18:46 Using incremental parsing in Emacs (via: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-29 19:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:29     ` Reliable after-change-functions (via: Using incremental parsing in Emacs) Yuan Fu
2020-03-30 14:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 15:06       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 17:14         ` Yuan Fu
2020-03-30 17:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 18:43             ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-30 18:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 19:02                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-03-30 19:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 19:21                     ` Yuan Fu
2020-03-31  3:56                       ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 13:16                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 13:36                           ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 14:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 15:37                               ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 15:58                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 16:18                                   ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31 17:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01  0:57                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-30 19:42                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 19:27                 ` Štěpán Němec
2020-03-31  2:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31  3:10             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 13:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 14:31                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 15:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 15:45                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 17:16                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 17:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 19:35                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01  2:23                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 15:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 17:10                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 17:19                       ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-03-31 17:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:42                         ` 조성빈
2020-03-31 19:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:47                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 18:48                           ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-31 19:02                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 19:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 19:50                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01  2:28                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01  3:49                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01  4:14                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 13:47                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 14:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 14:55                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 15:16                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 15:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 21:48                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 22:29                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 14:23                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 16:17                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-02 18:25                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 14:40                                                   ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-03 16:10                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 13:52                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-01 14:10                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 15:27                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 15:44                                           ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-01 16:03                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 21:21                                             ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-04-02 14:09                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 18:03                                                 ` 조성빈 via "Emacs development discussions.
2020-04-02 18:27                                                   ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-02 19:39                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01 15:22                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 11:06                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 11:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 14:14                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 14:41                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 15:04                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 15:38                                                   ` Richard Copley
2020-04-04 11:27                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 12:01                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 12:36                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 12:40                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 13:02                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 16:09                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 16:38                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 16:45                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 17:22                                                       ` Richard Copley
2020-04-04 17:50                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 18:29                                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 18:56                                                           ` Richard Copley
2020-04-04 20:36                                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-04 17:36                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 17:47                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 18:02                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 23:01                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 14:25                                                               ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-06 19:55                                                                 ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-04 17:29                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04 17:38                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 17:57                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 16:13                 ` Alan Third
2020-03-31 17:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30  3:35     ` Using incremental parsing in Emacs (via: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30  6:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 13:33         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-30 14:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30 15:03             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01  0:39               ` Stephen Leake
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-03-31 17:07 Reliable after-change-functions (via: Using incremental parsing in Emacs) Tuấn Anh Nguyễn
2020-03-31 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01  6:17   ` Tuấn Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-01 13:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 15:47       ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-01 16:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 17:55       ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-01 19:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-01 23:38           ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-02  0:25             ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-02  2:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02  4:36               ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02 14:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 15:19                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02  5:21             ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02 14:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03  2:27               ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-03  7:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 17:45                   ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-03 18:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04  0:04                       ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-04  7:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02  4:21           ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02  5:19             ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-02  9:29               ` Stephen Leake
2020-04-02 10:37             ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-02 11:14               ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-02 13:02             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 15:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 15:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 14:34               ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn

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