From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In support of Jonas Bernoulli's Magit Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 02:01:55 +0300 Message-ID: References: <8737aac0rb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <7s37aapc4g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499382138 26225 195.159.176.226 (6 Jul 2017 23:02:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 23:02:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/54.0 Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 07 01:02:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dTFmg-0006Bb-Jw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2017 01:02:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53565 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTFmm-0006nA-1G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 19:02:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTFmf-0006mt-JG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 19:02:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTFma-0004GV-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 19:02:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr0-x232.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::232]:36089) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dTFma-0004GG-F7; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 19:02:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr0-x232.google.com with SMTP id c11so22836692wrc.3; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:02:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bt8xIiO4i0+AD3AD1AIwudDJKZPFd0HelTHGJJ+Zvd8=; b=HnpH165ldr2I4PQzq4KpDIEuTMFvKYmnpslLQtSA/r8oc14JjJanpFUZ/RQYFpSwcW lY0wDH6aVKSW/3ro48I6xvW3CgysZJJX9PFMu9c4NSatiyz2swQ8KGbDihoCmwRZ7+wW X0Vzdbx+/QglxWurKQrR2oxHAfyJv89XmgetD0iBs67TxaUV/TkDRfaAFCoKF4zvNm04 hQM3jsk03SA0ispZs9BOAdzMqWsaCTDedy/DoE0pr39C3uqrAu2wEdgzA1KUqztrAQC0 VeUDKH25XAOjpGTgNVIFzlEuzxyKPXAEVHdwAfwEIw7Gt26pm8X+wCli9eYO9cRiInbF Vs+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bt8xIiO4i0+AD3AD1AIwudDJKZPFd0HelTHGJJ+Zvd8=; b=Wml0aDUfnSnAXcNDNMlELvH6nAfZql7bUuyW9sKoCwvE74BFN/YmzIhzDycKH2iz1f bzCILo9b/DtuSo5SxGptToRzBEGm7ckAbbFq7J9B5HLt4MEUQcohLeIDeDXbkRRAbSns z7wKirxAmQriqMlwpKLXV3hBoD/HLVixLWvnSlbYfU9odo2wfwYGOrQgPUFwiCM3wTNB SsLmOk/7XRjKbJ/9hBBA/7DAks5NtGGWTjQq0eiiWutWa1dM5zGH9XtDZq6pFMh8N8Oa rdUeYxa9agyzmz9/TvzRg/wjrRV65MLdeYq6TkRF4Ua3Z0s7Vr7bYdbgVIRJ07puLN7n 5z6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw1115YvCSwx8ezBFYh8znHc6ZZF+C5LPeHBZiN4DEZ7aiWsayDXMH wlH+aBhilvaocKcbOyQ= X-Received: by 10.28.55.5 with SMTP id e5mr159196wma.32.1499382118918; Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([185.105.174.193]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v2sm1888396wrb.68.2017.07.06.16.01.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Jul 2017 16:01:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216249 Archived-At: On 7/6/17 7:02 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > When people ask here what they should do to use git with Emacs, the > usual answer posted is "use Magit". Thus the problem: that the usual > way people recommend to use Emacs with Git is via a package we have > been unable to include in Emacs. Even if we launch a successful GNU project that competes with Magit, *and* manage to more or less cover its feature set, it is highly unlikely to eclipse Magit by popularity. People will continue recommending Magit. Instead, we should work toward getting Magit into ELPA, and continue improving VC and its Git support. It's a decent interface to Git already, and it provide a simpler workflow better suited for new users.