From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juri Linkov" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please add a "Guided Tour" menu command Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:09:19 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: References: <87ejpc3ilr.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <878wwen09k.fsf@jurta.org> <87wsfjtl0s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225829460 2836 80.91.229.12 (4 Nov 2008 20:11:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Jason Spiro" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 04 21:12:02 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KxSEX-00036Q-VH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:10:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49452 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxSDR-0004Sc-1J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:09:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxSDM-0004S7-5I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:09:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KxSDK-0004Re-9c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:09:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55932 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KxSDK-0004Rb-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:09:22 -0500 Original-Received: from sd-green-dreamhost-133.dreamhost.com ([208.97.187.133]:59534 helo=webmail5.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KxSDK-0000qs-Gk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:09:22 -0500 Original-Received: from webmail.jurta.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail5.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3A15B6BA; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:09:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 84.50.125.37 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jurta@jurta.org) by webmail.jurta.org with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:09:19 +0200 (EET) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105356 Archived-At: > So name the menu item this: "Emacs Guided Tour (web page)". Yes, it is important to add such a notice, otherwise running a browser would a bad surprise for users. Another question is where to put such a menu item. Help menus are already overcrowded. So maybe to add it to some Help submenu. > Or, as I mentioned months ago[1], you could ship the tour .odp and .pdf= files > with Emacs like XEmacs does[2], then ask the OS to launch them in whate= ver it > thinks is the appropriate viewer. I like that idea better, since I lik= e the > slideshow version of the tour[3] much more than the webpage version. (= Though > maybe I only like it more because I am already a non-newbie Emacs user.= Do > you agree that that's probably why I like it more?) Good idea. We now have a new nice Doc-View mode that can display PDF files. --=20 Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/