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From: Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: gnus / message-send-mail-with-mailclient [patch]
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 13:29:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01ksa$9g2$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0698DD0E-838C-4F43-B304-D44217205972@gmail.com>

David Reitter wrote:
 > On 24 Mar 2006, at 14:29, Reiner Steib wrote:
 >> On Wed, Mar 22 2006, David Reitter wrote:
 >> I can't think of a reliable way to check if the application called by
 >> `browse-url' handled the mailto link correctly.
 >
 > I can't either. I believe `message-send-mail-with-sendmail' is the  best
 > default for `message-send-mail-function', unless running on  systems
 > where sendmail is not implemented or swallows mail. (OS X  10.4 is
 > supposed to automatically fire up sendmail, according to an  Apple
 > developer. I haven't seen this work reliably, so far.)
 >
 >> At least, `mailclient-send-it' could inform the user what it does.
 >>
 >> Something like "Delegating [shortened-mailto-stuff] to
 >> `browse-url'...".  Maybe including the value of
 >> `browse-url-browser-function' in the message.  Note that
 >> `browse-url-browser-function' might be a (REGEXP . FUNCTION) list.
 >
 >
 > These require developer-level knowledge and add to the general
 > information overload. "Browse" never sounds like mailclient.

I don't agree.  I expect users to use `C-h v' and `C-h f' when they see
variables and functions explicitly mentioned in an error message (or in
a status message before things go awry).

If the message is prefixed with "mailclient-send-it: " or if
[shortened-mailto-stuff] actually included the "mailto:" URL scheme, it
should be clear what browse-url is being used for.

 > How about
 >
 > (message "Delegated message to default mail client.")

That tells me... nothing.

 > But most importantly, we should see if the "Message sent" message can
 > be avoided, since it's plain and simply wrong from the user's 
perspective.

No, it's just been sent to a different destination than the user
assumes.  :-)

How about "Message dispatched"?

-- 
Kevin Rodgers

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-24 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-09 12:06 gnus / message-send-mail-with-mailclient [patch] David Reitter
2006-03-16 21:27 ` Reiner Steib
2006-03-17  7:39   ` David Reitter
2006-03-17 11:33   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-17 12:37     ` David Reitter
2006-03-17 17:10       ` Reiner Steib
2006-03-18 10:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-03-18 11:44           ` Reiner Steib
2006-03-22 10:36             ` David Reitter
2006-03-24 14:29               ` Reiner Steib
2006-03-24 17:15                 ` David Reitter
2006-03-24 20:29                   ` Kevin Rodgers [this message]
2006-03-26  9:35                     ` David Reitter

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