From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:59:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87sk7pzqsp.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <33DBCF2DFF71401DB0861E66EC29ED2B@us.oracle.com> <5F1D87251C98412EADC1187ABFCC3E8D@us.oracle.com> <4BAD2F8C.7050701@canaxis.org> <777851FC04B349D6B6B36B998FC3127C@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269644428 27568 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2010 23:00:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 27 00:00:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvIVo-0008EW-Qm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:00:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39222 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NvIVo-0000jv-80 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:00:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NvIVW-0000gp-5C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46406 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NvIVU-0000gY-HD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:00:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvIVP-0004NR-J8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:00:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.158]:27689) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvIVP-0004N9-9s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:59:55 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2012730fgb.12 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:59:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:received:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=OzQWSjr80NI0mpXJksFTp03+uxG/Z9UbVL8BuXTy02Q=; b=t4ONG4v5hsm8406Pyi4LTPzth1y304lSWn5j6eR+c+VJHQsRLWEry8RrNDpM6BhQT1 sKihMIa+53czKBTdR3+ziYBhrdkbiET4b+kpspJ/Nk/76j2//sdhA3fxPSIzlWKLQbK+ Mmzl4PH6HLqF8kIFtJ36fV72U0SKkD4LsL/xQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=gu37W2g2/Fe3Nw21sSYxgjrwH7q74AKMtQeNXTFQvEqVON1IpYTzgrnuf9nkfp2NmR //wvkZoWVNqWuL97gmQt5/yLImrrgQNgG2jpn/nDbvbtCtopn2As8q8tMTQ0iahFCZFY NMlRWzfiznMxZnLxAXNMYtGwECZHjkLNhIQ6Q= Original-Received: by 10.239.141.72 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:59:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Original-Received: by 10.239.193.140 with SMTP id j12mr156742hbi.112.1269644394240; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:59:54 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122740 Archived-At: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >> >> Why not try cua-mode? > > Or vice versa: I hit `C-x C-s' in Framemaker and get the message "Nothing to cut". I often try C-s in Firefox and find the result quite irritating cause it takes some time for the file save dialog to appear. > But most of the time, even half-asleep on autopilot I get by OK. And for some > reason I never seem to get tripped up by C-c, C-x, or C-z. With the region hilighted you may make those mistakes more often of course. On the other side with cua-mode on you have to learn using C-S-c and C-S-x when the region is hilighted. This may be hard in the beginning. Personally, because I use Viper, I have only been hit by C-x here, but it happened to me many times. (Maybe since I tend to use computers when I am tired.) BTW, is there any strong reason not to bind C-z to `undo' by default in Emacs?