From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: mathias@mnet-mail.de, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:32:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01d8a51003261532m250d7f9r1e4b1ce315f5bfca@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F7E66A5A5F544FDE94D50AAB2C92B7AC@us.oracle.com>
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> It is new users that should be treated with respect. All of them know
>> these CUA key bindings. All of them use them. (If they are not computer
>> illiterates.)
>
> But please do not think you
> have a monopoly on respect for new users.
I am glad I do not have that ;-)
I just wanted to make the real subject a bit more visible.
> But I'm not convinced that the only rationale for the current Emacs bindings is
> the sorry weight of legacy.
If it were not for the CUA keys the Emacs bindings were a good
choice. (But I really do recommend sticky keys for those that use
them.)
It is not hard at all to understand the choices. But if CUA keys had
been used before Emacs then I guess Emacs key bindings would have
included them and looked quite a bit different.
I am still all for adding "skins" for this type of change.
> Why? Isn't it just as troublesome that C-z means `resume-frame'?
resume-frame hardly needs such an important (easy to type) key
binding. undo is far more common.
> I, for one, am not convinced that CUA or Viper is the best way to promote Emacs
> productivity.
CUA *and* Viper ;-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-26 22:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2010-03-24 20:20 ` d-s-m default: nil Ulf Jasper
2010-03-24 20:26 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-25 0:24 ` d-s-m default: Nil + explanation! (was: d-s-m default) Memnon Anon
2010-03-25 4:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 8:24 ` d-s-m default: Nil + explanation! David Kastrup
2010-03-25 13:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 13:18 ` David Kastrup
2010-03-25 13:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 14:21 ` Davis Herring
2010-03-25 14:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 15:04 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-25 16:27 ` Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m Stefan Monnier
2010-03-25 17:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-03-26 7:04 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-25 23:56 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 2:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-26 8:28 ` mathias
2010-03-26 17:53 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 20:18 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 21:18 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 21:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 22:05 ` Christophe Poncy
2010-03-26 22:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 22:23 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:33 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 22:44 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:59 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 23:15 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:30 ` Christophe Poncy
2010-03-26 22:13 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 22:32 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2010-03-26 23:11 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-26 23:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 23:35 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-27 22:49 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-27 23:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-27 23:37 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-27 23:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-28 0:28 ` Deniz Dogan
2010-03-29 23:38 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-30 0:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30 1:16 ` Christoph
2010-03-30 5:31 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-30 6:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30 9:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-30 18:17 ` Chad Brown
2010-03-30 19:19 ` Lluís
2010-03-25 20:48 ` d-s-m default: t Noah Friedman
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