From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:18:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87sk7pzqsp.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <8739zps45s.fsf@mean.albasani.net> <87mxxw6c7b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20100326092833.19294vuz9efv5qg4@webmail.mnet-online.de> <33DBCF2DFF71401DB0861E66EC29ED2B@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269637405 4590 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2010 21:03:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mathias@mnet-mail.de, David Kastrup , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 26 22:03:20 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvGgZ-0003cD-U8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:03:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43353 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NvGf2-0007lp-GB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:01:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NvG9O-0004zC-1w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46797 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NvG9F-0004hE-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:29:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvFzC-00086q-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:18:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f224.google.com ([209.85.220.224]:54933) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvFzC-00086j-Gz; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:18:30 -0400 Original-Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so60515fxm.26 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:18:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:received:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=NbgWMNSfmRBXAgoSAzMQ3iH6zDEBSY74ZQCn0rhyp5M=; b=WdH1iGON/iilrX5cPnBr7sl9xgExkZnm+vGDFUezPr//bnLQGS0S56OFSIa64bp7Fz 6q8S1EnsW/if+I5Cze2BwOYKcxqJYE4tweeC9snxCkZ6CWVQ/61T86s7IvRxFZT2r64i QBrp/lgBIunxlA3ULhpIklEq6YOjjoeQm0MDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=fPG2fIedc+bNQMwf+mXzteeWv5UgmaKAPuBZLsCZAAbQtcTNwpFIJefAoitPvPfVii xQTDawb4hJ3FccFqMXxf1FXL1zdLVzygKejn4yOlOjHl7ISdUgxL66Bmmyu/awzSa+7L 1yd05NcyhZ02XhhXKnKFD3eoZALO/P16Sml1s= Original-Received: by 10.239.141.72 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:18:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <33DBCF2DFF71401DB0861E66EC29ED2B@us.oracle.com> Original-Received: by 10.239.185.133 with SMTP id c5mr122014hbh.139.1269634709098; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:18:29 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122720 Archived-At: >> Couldn't C-x SPC be used to activate the region (without changing >> point and mark)? It seems unused and is easier to type then >> Alan's suggestion. -- Mathias > > C-z I think that would be a very bad idea since C-z seems to be used as undo in most editing environments. BTW I searched a bit to see if this was defined in CUA. A little bit surprised I found that most pages mentioning CUA seems to be Emacs related. Am I wrong to assume that this means that Emacs is the last main editing environment that does not use CUA by default? I just did a test with gvim and found that it seems to support: - CUA keys and C-z (in insert mode) - shift select - self insert keys replaces visible selection