From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:21:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <22603146-A346-4FC2-8D74-5D6047865C3A@mit.edu> <87r5nf8s7q.fsf@siart.de> <87pr2ygbii.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87tys9180s.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269220997 12443 80.91.229.12 (22 Mar 2010 01:23:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 22 02:23:12 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtWMJ-00051z-Iw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:23:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60928 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NtWMI-0001ra-Vy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:23:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NtWKk-0000s8-SM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:21:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47707 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NtWKj-0000qr-6O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:21:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtWKi-0007tM-8m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:21:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f220.google.com ([209.85.220.220]:34002) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtWKg-0007sx-A0; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:21:30 -0400 Original-Received: by fxm20 with SMTP id 20so5734448fxm.32 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:21:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=6BT4Hyijbff5czUkKPbc6cu62L8fNgHD6uM6zFFflV4=; b=pNHKF7iz/UtOdTVdA8q5vrAOdFlPu8yHgKVTeXpTZcXTwgxxymFhMITwReLlqgXU/X h3qTFbbUrfsvcCGDtY4CoD747rwYhf8PXkn0XUM/UQivPevnEUjm54IFjrq6f/8sUsaI LkfD/K4v98SbIkxRTeXMh3HP4oQFfyJIOX5Cc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=IaEEQqoWxpVhW51ifT4x84rVtxlWVG7d0vxg4To72FmWW3b7ipkwWth9wDfaMZiFpg q2N6xx9H2j5egMbys59llpkCFTIM9n7KrFXI99PSYa4fcGT/T3xUqWKnO+DibJZ/6ajh rDmwcozS2v6PDoWrmnMj8b4Dozgp16lt4d7cM= Original-Received: by 10.239.181.79 with SMTP id l15mr597659hbg.95.1269220887175; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:21:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87tys9180s.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122435 Archived-At: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Miles Bader wrote: > > Having multiple "types" of selection that are > sorta-the-same-but-sorta-different is just going to make Emacs harder to > use for everybody, and harder to learn for beginners. Could you please be more specific? This is a bit too general to be understandable. If you for example mean that shift selection should go away then I disagree. If you mean that we should work towards getting selection working the same whenever possible then I agree. Howevere moving towards the common denominator for different editing environments is in my opinion most important. Repeating myself I once again stress that this needs creativity to not destroy (and any kind of negative remarks will diminish creativity and may make it impossible to reach a good result).