From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:36:06 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87k4t92hmb.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> <87ocij1wdu.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> <87sk7u3bac.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87zl221dd3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269171406 24720 80.91.229.12 (21 Mar 2010 11:36:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de, jasonr@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 21 12:36:40 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtJSS-0001k7-6P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:36:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46803 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NtJSR-0002GT-Hk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:36:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NtJSL-0002GK-44 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:36:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57676 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NtJSJ-0002GC-1V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtJSI-00088y-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:36:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com ([209.85.220.227]:43542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NtJSF-00088g-In; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:36:27 -0400 Original-Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so1783966fxm.8 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:36:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GGhhAVbpB0K4iC0ReNNFnsrcO77ji3Z48aIDcIZbtZU=; b=Z4W0V9zV22LWXNX0y/1LVvqaTIiAbEEiPgSMmMccGEfoDJ/zhwYCJkkwO7pXG/c0Tw iRlW7yhfarr3J1uH57oESGWtx9YkitTHxMHwdyvYK4n8PsUNDlxemPc/9hbHHdRIOJaY OI+nUsR43ffP4QIpPx35kA/ROqpdDWz258xtk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bCNSGpCc9ADCx7Fmi1E4T1/p0s7ydApK3JyT/6NonEUOb+OnW9OQ0PW4F+SzwlN4Uj whogQfL/F9SGW/uVqIZhi8nTw0bZxafRArP6td6Kigj1SE8wnk6OP67+IGl8+x8Hc5px OBhpYkgTZ9nEbwV1atQzFqjmTNcLwqVO/Ogj4= Original-Received: by 10.239.181.73 with SMTP id l9mr531322hbg.55.1269171386164; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 04:36:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zl221dd3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122410 Archived-At: On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Miles Bader wrote: > >> Naive users will not be bothered by this since they will only see a >> region that behaves like a region in other editing environments. > > That's extremely limited thinking. You are probably just misunderstanding again. I hope it is not intentionall= y. > It assumes that users who use those > commands will _never_ use the Emacs repertoire of marking commands; Not at all. > if > they do, they'll be confronted by inconsistent behavior for no obvious > reason. =C2=A0That may well discourage them from exploring further -- and > that's _bad_; the Emacs commands are superior, if unfamiliar at first. I am quite sure you can see some contradictions in what you are saying here= .