From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:36:56 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20100317143519.GB4381@muc.de> <22603146-A346-4FC2-8D74-5D6047865C3A@mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269052656 31274 80.91.229.12 (20 Mar 2010 02:37:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chad Brown , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 20 03:37:28 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsoZ6-0001re-J4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:37:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49296 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsoZ5-00064d-PW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:37:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsoYz-00063x-1D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:37:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37305 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsoYx-00063G-T1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:37:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsoYw-0008Ss-Fo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:37:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.152]:10305) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsoYw-0008Sl-AD; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:37:18 -0400 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 19so385359fgg.12 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:37:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gr29ebTEOqC5B7o4vD5xy12I5s8/tanrxmmFGLShRkk=; b=XyTwdVj+qgbZE8tb0R9BbIgzSagp3QkaCRkte9eT1RotuZvpufJd0RS3IwdFIHIAF1 hzthivjZeV1K4M26Qp4009htM19D1uuxGQjscRT9AOvNTcIOF5fUHsjCSTN+qjylTuJs qdDJIdlmmShGp5duwJogRfzy2Kh10SqWWmrDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LMEi+bwL/rIPONqJ/Z9qZJQiTfzBKKkH9dQPOXvurP65ous6KqdBhv2D7V4l5lCn+g aVcex5AL+u3MxMF011NrQ4jXABqOBYSnhUPINOJhW7Axzen0Tm4fKElYgy6QvMAP/H5U xsi35+K265LV63vkbwgfl3uxePd1VGQiHfV+s= Original-Received: by 10.239.190.79 with SMTP id w15mr1697389hbh.123.1269052637152; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:37:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122331 Archived-At: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> I've just spoken to my sister, an "ordinary" computer user= . =C3=82=C2=A0She says > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> she normally uses the key after marking text befo= re typing > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> further. =C3=82=C2=A0She also gets annoyed "every now and = then" when marked text > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> gets accidentally deleted by typing, though "it's not too = bad" if > =C2=A0 =C2=A0> there's an undo key sequence. > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Yes, that is normal today since that is how it works during = most of > =C2=A0 =C2=A0the editing people do today. > > Alan's point is that one ordinary user dislikes what most programs do > today. =C2=A0She dislikes it in the other programs, and she would dislike > it in Emacs too if we made Emacs do it. I happened to dislike it myself the first time it happened to me. However I got used to it. There could be other ways but I can see no real reason they are better (at least not the versions I can think of). My conclusion here is: follow the de facto standards - as long as the key sequences used belongs to these standards.