From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: Fwd: CEDET sync Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:43:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: <86bpf7q3fc.wl%lluis@ginnungagap.pc.ac.upc.edu> <87wrxvyijr.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4B8C42E2.3080308@siege-engine.com> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C09227D1F24@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <878wabxg0x.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mxyrhxq8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267523084 19732 80.91.229.12 (2 Mar 2010 09:44:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 02 10:44:40 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmOed-0005Te-UQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:44:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54386 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmOed-0000nz-C5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:44:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NmOe0-0000Pt-Ck for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:44:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42594 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmOdy-0000OH-M6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:43:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmOdx-0004Qx-Nz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:43:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com ([209.85.220.222]:62625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmOdx-0004Qq-JR; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:43:57 -0500 Original-Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so51885fxm.26 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:43:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JvRyyqZghkcsepjnO+cAlrYk1Wq5icVvwWCfJ4QZOD0=; b=EutQVgxiovNbCLpQRHOtlsxlHjA6T0bMWx5Y2BVyDwuWVpd6FZkkdXyViWDSvaXE9J Ucwr72m9coOXpnmWCciZNF1UfI5RkXS9pOKwT+oUubarVzPFzId2NP8vK99GJHmSL1yL i98btua058gaqWIt8oqIoe1+gNL6SsFlBdxLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TpG3y/Bnzj7VidBLpVVqIrveOwPUA+2jj+EdHwfQD36JHpnQgRTTctHH35WCcV3wGt Rq/voIL/GOpfrXVoUVNeqAMPiqXxxVBBTLRj+fqbxqZBPOBaYwFjr5MiggemPfiSaafS JZCGNYn8UiLLlzStEpav+FFFTWCREb2CjFPU8= Original-Received: by 10.239.177.199 with SMTP id w7mr498655hbf.98.1267523036083; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:43:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87mxyrhxq8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121529 Archived-At: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:35 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > >> Berndl, Klaus writes: >> >> =C2=A0> Supporting not only Emacs but also Xemacs should be a value uphe= ld >> =C2=A0> be tools like CEDET and ECB, even when merged into Emacs. But ca= use >> =C2=A0> of some really heavy incompatibilities between these both flavor= s >> =C2=A0> of Emacs it is a smart move to decide where to invest the main >> =C2=A0> power (of development). And IMHO a) GNU Emacs has high potential >> =C2=A0> future (just compare the different traffic on the both developme= nt >> =C2=A0> mailing lists) whereas b) Xemacs is headed south (again IMHO) >> >> The reports of the death of XEmacs are greatly exaggerated. =C2=A0Look >> here: > > Worms may wriggle, too. =C2=A0The question is whether there is a central > agency moving forward. =C2=A0There has been recent rekindling of work in = core > areas, but following years of quiescence. > > As long as everybody caters for _his_ favorite editor and takes care not > to sabotage the work of others catering for _theirs_, the systems will > thrive according to the interest in them. =C2=A0I would recommend against > dedicating resources to systems you don't actively use yourself. > Putting projects on foreign "life support" is not going to make them > survive on their own strengths. I think the worst problem is the scattering of scarce resources. Eric Ludlam is such a resource ;-) And of course also Stephen Turnbull.