From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Autoload from a web page?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:29:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01d8a50912282129p288177edic8b7abe2d6a93f24@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1NPUXb-0000ez-8p@fencepost.gnu.org>
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> - You have group of related elisp files in a common place on the web.
> - You download one of them, but it turns out that it does `require' or
> autoload that supposes you have downloaded the other files too.
>
> I understand that is the case you're talking about.
> It is wrong to cut the user out of the process of deciding what
> software to install.
But in this situation he is not cut out of the decision. At least that
is not my intention.
In this scenario the user wants to download a package, but he may not
want all of it at once. It is just like autoloading locally, but with
the difference that the files are loaded from the web (in a well
defined manner).
> In a situation like that it is possible to set up for autoloading
> things by downloading them from the web without compromising security
>
> This issue is not about security in the usual sense.
> It is about preserving the user's control of his computing.
> This is a fundamental goal for the GNU Project
Yes, I understand that and I read about the problem with javascript.
The same problems can not arise here since the user will be in control
of where to download files from. Unlike the situation with javascript
a single site (or a list of well defined sites) will be where the
download comes from.
> Please see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html. That
> issue is not related to Emacs, but it is basically the same issue.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-29 5:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-26 2:55 Autoload from a web page? Lennart Borgman
2009-12-27 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-27 3:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-28 18:48 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-28 18:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29 1:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-29 1:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29 2:45 ` joakim
2009-12-29 2:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29 4:52 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-29 22:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-30 6:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-30 18:06 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2009-12-30 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 19:10 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-01 0:40 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-01 19:27 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-01 19:26 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-04 18:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 15:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 18:46 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 21:14 ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo (was: Autoload from a web page?) Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 21:21 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-12-29 21:38 ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 21:36 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-30 16:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-31 5:32 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-01 19:18 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-03 5:38 ` Integrating package.el (was Re: unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo) Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-04 17:55 ` Integrating package.el Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-04 19:51 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-05 5:02 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 5:37 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-05 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 16:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 16:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 20:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 23:50 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-06 20:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-06 21:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-09 5:40 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-09 14:32 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-09 17:47 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 10:41 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-10 11:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-10 14:04 ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-10 16:00 ` joakim
2010-01-10 20:43 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 20:07 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 21:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10 23:02 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-11 3:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14 3:12 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-19 11:40 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-19 17:17 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-02-22 19:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-22 20:36 ` joakim
2010-02-23 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-24 21:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-25 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 14:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 16:32 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 17:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 20:59 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-02 17:39 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-02 18:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-02 13:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:37 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 22:18 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-03-01 22:30 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-03-01 23:00 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-02 13:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-03 20:13 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-04 5:42 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-02 19:03 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-25 22:56 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-03-04 5:39 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-04 7:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-04 18:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-05 4:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-04 13:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-04 18:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-04 18:33 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-07 22:58 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-04 20:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-07 23:16 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-08 3:17 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-08 14:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 17:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-08 17:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-04 18:30 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-05 0:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 14:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 16:26 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 17:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 18:06 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-01 21:22 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-03 20:15 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-03 20:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-03 22:21 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-02 13:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:09 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-11 3:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-12 20:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-12 21:37 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 15:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 16:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 17:51 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) (was: Integrating package.el) Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 19:43 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 22:28 ` Gnus encouragement of GMail (was: Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus)) Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 17:27 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) (was: Integrating package.el) Reiner Steib
2010-01-05 18:03 ` Integrating package.el Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 18:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 19:14 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-05 20:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 23:19 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-06 15:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-30 17:16 ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-01 19:21 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-29 5:22 ` Autoload from a web page? Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 5:29 ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2010-01-02 15:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-04 2:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-04 16:23 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 16:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-30 16:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 17:08 ` Lennart Borgman
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