From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: menu-bar/menu problems and label/help text purecopy guidelines Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:23:46 +0100 Message-ID: References: <26634810.post@talk.nabble.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1260483886 12185 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2009 22:24:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Geek4AllSeasons Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 10 23:24:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NIrR7-0005f9-SB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:24:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46893 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NIrR7-0005iR-G1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:24:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NIrQi-0005hy-Sx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:24:12 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NIrQe-0005gb-65 for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:24:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48949 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NIrQd-0005gU-SU for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:24:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f191.google.com ([209.85.210.191]:57957) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NIrQd-0003Un-Nc for Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:24:07 -0500 Original-Received: by yxe29 with SMTP id 29so716223yxe.14 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=PY3SFgFqndgq1C5xqXX4qdXOXjdW24El3Hy/v7X50GE=; b=kE/4zvwQdB/t7jxEB6um8pHB+QF3nWNBkRQe1onpLHE4ugk5sUf5RbIJaRtJhHkXVi adhw6+2xVJwBo3NNdNJJAdOpoOrwYhrz1ysLchqT30SnQ/A/d8yFRBlY6mgNflf21mKt VmMQ7A1tk9Dp4OMmcfh01CYLQU+SYA+s262HM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=xbCYf9XsXmVflYsi5N3aUkwsITmpXcfv/hy0tXL5vPIjnXo7kYuRLtySGJh1rsqiTl zWEKWH4sptCaGXNN0mAIjO5C+54R/8vdSwSg2mvgV5u4X+UptWEg5qUXiZfC88qjUsxC i9u58SqU2J8CTGVLe8/7SSYXdBcU9h5lglJGY= Original-Received: by 10.100.243.37 with SMTP id q37mr800470anh.164.1260483846304; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <26634810.post@talk.nabble.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:70574 Archived-At: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Geek4AllSeasons wrote: > > The menu-bar started having episodes (standard menus fading out/disappearing > when clicked; toolbar tooltips displayed on mouse-hover on menu-bar) about a > week ago. > > Emacs 23.1.50.cvs090630/EmacsW32 1.58 patched installed 09/23/09 had worked > fine previously. Upgrading to Emacs 23.1.50.cvs091103/EmacsW32 1.58 didn't > help. Could you please test with an unpatched Emacs? I suspect the problem may be difficult to reproduce there because the menus are harder to reach from the keyboard. Or are you using the mouse? In any case please try to reproduce it with an unpatched Emacs and send a bug report. > A few menu text/purecopy bug reports and thread postings referencing the > switch to gtk+ reduced the search space. Inserting purecopy wrappers for > menu text corrects the problem menu by menu. > > Use of purecopy for menu text is inconsistent for core distribution and > add-on/contributed libraries. In many, maybe, most cases GC menu text works. > A comment in an Emacs-Dev thread indicated library pre-loading (loaddefs.el) > building Emacs as determining the need/use of pure/GC storage. > > Are guidelines available? If so, corrections could be made accordingly and > patches created/submitted. According to the elisp manual purecopy does not do anything except when building and dumping Emacs so it should not be the problem here, see (info "(elisp) Pure Storage") > Based on search results there seems to be an increasing number of > potentially related issues/problems reported. Variability of symptoms makes > searching for solutions/workarounds more difficult. Time and effort would be > saved if general/less incident specific posting/descriptions were available. > > Please let me know if there is a better list. > > Thanks. > > david > -- > View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/menu-bar-menu-problems-and-label-help-text-purecopy-guidelines-tp26634810p26634810.html > Sent from the Emacs - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > >