From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Basic Bazaar guide for Emacs hackers. Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:17:28 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87skbzblp5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87y6log42q.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259547488 17813 80.91.229.12 (30 Nov 2009 02:18:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 30 03:18:00 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NEvpv-00089T-1O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 03:17:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48188 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NEvpu-0004Dy-DX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:17:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NEvpp-0004CQ-Ud for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:17:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NEvpl-0004AB-0f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:17:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56796 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NEvpk-0004A4-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:17:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f212.google.com ([209.85.217.212]:61339) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NEvpk-0003zX-Jx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:17:48 -0500 Original-Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so1446551gxk.8 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:17:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LCpZSHsCK8ampgjTkiQ7JiStN0CwxFVuoriCFuMkffc=; b=BGWMZtqDvNYnku3wgxydZZOCIxo86k8EHkWfnNAED0cj8BDSqusga6Uu2StYWRAdtZ zKbNxWz0r1t0ix17LMvbSLvcTCbZ4tNi78jIrdKOkyl7ZO7W160/oinYJcTtuIQ9QYPr q5GDmJN9+0MRmR/s2rFn9OmkjiiRLFZz6WJbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LXXXcbvUZalYyUmjfFkUpjDWa7ZQ9C+vLoufwU9or6MWF/AUrdeihbzfvxFtcIuqHz +uKe5lL//VzGsyojJwt7OBTnXNimqTSxNnpsX+WFp3ORFMtuNdKe1i6HlSxIAlyHdbkz n0s1T/lno4lwIkiXrb8FAikblEgNy3XOs6KBQ= Original-Received: by 10.101.189.3 with SMTP id r3mr1258970anp.105.1259547468093; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:17:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y6log42q.fsf@red-bean.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117945 Archived-At: On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Karl Fogel wrote: > > There's nothing wrong with the content of BzrQuickStartForEmacsDevs. > It's just that if Emacs developers start doing things that way too, then > the total support burden on the community goes up. =C2=A0We should not > stimulate that situation if we can avoid it. Interesting. In science someone (very familiar) said "make it simple, but not too simple". IMO the burden of not making it simple has often been neglected in free software development. It is like it did not matter. But I think it does in many ways. And it is often very complicated to understand what it too simple and what is not enough simple. Like here.