From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: Beeping Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:25:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <87y6lxdvnl.fsf@mandingo.thematica.it> <87zl6dgjt1.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874oolarvt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87aay91k9j.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: Lennart Borgman , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259354864 12109 80.91.229.12 (27 Nov 2009 20:47:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , Giuseppe Scrivano , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Per =?UTF-8?Q?Starb=C3=A4ck?= , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 21:47:36 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NE7j5-0007Xk-MI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:47:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54548 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NE7j5-0007s4-6D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:47:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NE7j0-0007rE-UE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NE7iw-0007qE-HC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60120 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NE7iw-0007qB-9p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47768) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NE7iv-0007Kw-OL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nARKlMkV031169; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:47:23 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nARKZ600030173; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:35:06 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:35:06 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:35:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1305 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1305.125935358629573 (code B ref 1305); Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:35:06 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Nov 2009 20:26:26 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail-yw0-f196.google.com (mail-yw0-f196.google.com [209.85.211.196]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nARKQOFo029568 for <1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:26:25 -0800 Original-Received: by ywh34 with SMTP id 34so1540283ywh.1 for <1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:26:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1o/7qP8hMnmVi8i8UqK3DKNy8RFjSh2A3JfWP+KulO4=; b=SSF5aCTY1dnazsdwUxXIOBjF9mVUBZzLX0Av80e1Oa6GMt+gnzndEDlYPBQGndWVjY vYZI7PFg1LMfU2eUsZJ6ACutsmZ5+2gIKfM9my+CtOXksLQ+v2mdDVsbQACmg+pbAAaT vrUcvruBlrIcdwolk5+b+Rq6XDBwBRHg25dqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TixB2JZiCkWHELBtQuVRrdm0XtNmysk4JimiyI8ZUOnxD3e4zTmQJo+RC0Rz21kEaX qbfyZDRmh7q3Ux5ZPXLGq+GcQZIGhlePf7kaglQi1dbMo8K1JbVOCHzqRDRcuMnzoB0G 0R9RoAlRk6HzaX/ZDRsPXBxmy/B5bjXdPwLMg= Original-Received: by 10.101.62.9 with SMTP id p9mr790916ank.149.1259353579216; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:26:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:47:30 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:32996 Archived-At: 2009/11/27 Stefan Monnier : >> As an example of what I mean look at what windmove-left does when >> there is no window to the left. It then raises an error. >> If debug-on-error is true I then get a chance to debug my behaviour. I >> am not sure that makes sense. > > That's a problem between windmove and debug-ignored-errors. > BTW, I'd welcome a patch that introduces a new error `user-error' and > then changes calls to `error' where the error message is in > debug-ignored-errors to signal `user-error' instead. You mean that debug-ignored-errors should just be '(user-error)? Isn't there still a problem with condition-case then? Or perhaps it could be tamed to pass on user-error? >> The behaviour is different, but I think it should be similar to what >> scroll-down/up does when it reaches the border. I think there should >> be a unified behaviour. Making the visual bell default seems good, but >> why not implement it as `command-level'? > > That's already what "an error that's in debug-ignored-errors" does. > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Stefan >