From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Beeping Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:25:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <912155b0911230837i48326730m82e0d54d4004be59@mail.gmail.com> <87y6lxdvnl.fsf@mandingo.thematica.it> <87zl6dgjt1.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874oolarvt.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87aay91k9j.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259353604 8533 80.91.229.12 (27 Nov 2009 20:26:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , Giuseppe Scrivano , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Juri Linkov , =?UTF-8?Q?Per_Starb=C3=A4ck?= , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 21:26:36 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NE7Ol-0008Mz-9X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:26:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58883 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NE7Ok-0005Ab-ON for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:26:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NE7Od-00059y-Iw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:26:27 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NE7OY-00056a-6l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:26:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35990 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NE7OX-00056U-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:26:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com ([209.85.210.175]:50748) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NE7OW-000551-D8; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:26:20 -0500 Original-Received: by yxe5 with SMTP id 5so1824207yxe.24 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:26:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1o/7qP8hMnmVi8i8UqK3DKNy8RFjSh2A3JfWP+KulO4=; b=SSF5aCTY1dnazsdwUxXIOBjF9mVUBZzLX0Av80e1Oa6GMt+gnzndEDlYPBQGndWVjY vYZI7PFg1LMfU2eUsZJ6ACutsmZ5+2gIKfM9my+CtOXksLQ+v2mdDVsbQACmg+pbAAaT vrUcvruBlrIcdwolk5+b+Rq6XDBwBRHg25dqk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TixB2JZiCkWHELBtQuVRrdm0XtNmysk4JimiyI8ZUOnxD3e4zTmQJo+RC0Rz21kEaX qbfyZDRmh7q3Ux5ZPXLGq+GcQZIGhlePf7kaglQi1dbMo8K1JbVOCHzqRDRcuMnzoB0G 0R9RoAlRk6HzaX/ZDRsPXBxmy/B5bjXdPwLMg= Original-Received: by 10.101.62.9 with SMTP id p9mr790916ank.149.1259353579216; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:26:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117883 Archived-At: 2009/11/27 Stefan Monnier : >> As an example of what I mean look at what windmove-left does when >> there is no window to the left. It then raises an error. >> If debug-on-error is true I then get a chance to debug my behaviour. I >> am not sure that makes sense. > > That's a problem between windmove and debug-ignored-errors. > BTW, I'd welcome a patch that introduces a new error `user-error' and > then changes calls to `error' where the error message is in > debug-ignored-errors to signal `user-error' instead. You mean that debug-ignored-errors should just be '(user-error)? Isn't there still a problem with condition-case then? Or perhaps it could be tamed to pass on user-error? >> The behaviour is different, but I think it should be similar to what >> scroll-down/up does when it reaches the border. I think there should >> be a unified behaviour. Making the visual bell default seems good, but >> why not implement it as `command-level'? > > That's already what "an error that's in debug-ignored-errors" does. > > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Stefan >