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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Defcustoms, how do users find them?
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:22:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01d8a50911261822q6e9d8e2an6d6c8919310ba5c1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1vjku4gx.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>>> So it ends up increasing Emacs's footprint by a bit less than
>>> a megabyte.  It's not the end of the world, but it might be worthwhile
>>> trying to avoid loading this data unless it's really needed.
>> The easiest seems to be to split cus-load.el in two part and only load
>> this extra part in C-h v etc.
>
> I think C-h v, C-h f and very common operations which most of the time
> do not need this info, so I'd like to avoid eating up 1MB just for that.
>
>>> Of course, maybe there's a way to represent the same info
>>> more compactly
>> I doubt it is possible, but I do not understand all the figures.
>> Does it help to erase the data again after C-h v?
>
> Erasing the data after use might be a way around the problem.
> Note that in the form in which you currently store the data (Customize
> symbol properties), it's difficult to unload it.


Maybe load this data only when needed and erase them always afterwards.

What is the problem with erasing the data? It is just a simple loop
erasing it all, or?


> If you additionally split the data (e.g. based on the first letter),
> you'd end up only loading a tenth of the data at a time, which would
> seem a lot more reasonable.


Aren't these data only needed in custom operations? Then just
loading/unloading them seems not be operations that will be very
frequent. They are not more frequent than commands if flag them and
erase them at command level. And a 0.1 seconds delay for certain
commands that either load libraries or are meant as information
commands is not very much.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-27  2:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-16 21:11 Defcustoms, how do users find them? Lennart Borgman
2009-11-16 23:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-16 23:49   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-17  2:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-17  3:17       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-17  3:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-17  3:41           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-17 14:22             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-17 14:45               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-17 23:13                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-18  3:26                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18  3:31                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-18 14:34                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-26 12:51                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-26 16:42                           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-26 17:30                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-26 17:36                               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  2:09                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27  2:22                                   ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2009-11-26 16:45                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-17 10:03 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-17 17:24   ` Glenn Morris
2009-11-18  9:57     ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-18 14:37       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-17 17:49   ` Drew Adams
2009-11-17 17:56     ` Lennart Borgman

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