From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Defcustoms, how do users find them? Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:36:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259259155 6196 80.91.229.12 (26 Nov 2009 18:12:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 26 19:12:28 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDipP-0007zI-Lb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:12:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58900 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDipP-0004gR-5m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:12:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDiGo-00032a-Vr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:36:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDiGk-00030X-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:36:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36427 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDiGk-00030Q-2X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:36:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com ([209.85.210.175]:47467) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDiGj-0006e1-Pz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:36:37 -0500 Original-Received: by yxe5 with SMTP id 5so889811yxe.24 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:36:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZWS8ad2o9st3qvvwOtILQIvGuZLT9OKXKdX4j/dYp7o=; b=qJzJrw2Cs/GrG7ho52tOdvYQM4LC7aVSFPJHPmMWSrz7xaFtMUCeWLzkxKz1PlBqEL MnttC1ET9uXQV5qMEcxKNDbfv535ErPBuV71xsCV1+B81Vptk9zU5TyemXqpP511WVLE /MO0HFt6NU597JZKeW9Y5yUxVs7KkGENH35hY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HAQdQ3Dn7qzvZHefhmTrmRBh0/HhokmAwFRfqN5HGnV6jnLYq7Xk+m8LD9qaqmWpAA eluvgOjawY2u0R15XH2BaZoHsMj53+M0jXVy3hfAJmmKjuocEQuV9H+opIjd89BTUeFT Mx66/IM+0mo2WKE3qWd4fCVEqjlyfVPDyy9z0= Original-Received: by 10.101.75.19 with SMTP id c19mr27560anl.175.1259256997134; Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:36:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117830 Archived-At: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > So it ends up increasing Emacs's footprint by a bit less than > a megabyte. =C2=A0It's not the end of the world, but it might be worthwhi= le > trying to avoid loading this data unless it's really needed. The easiest seems to be to split cus-load.el in two part and only load this extra part in C-h v etc. > Of course, maybe there's a way to represent the same info > more compactly I doubt it is possible, but I do not understand all the figures. Does it help to erase the data again after C-h v? > or to load it piecemeal (e.g. I've been using a local > hack where C-h v foo-bar RET will try to load foo.el if foo-bar is not > yet defined). Doesn't it need this data?