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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: Alex Schroeder <kensanata@gmail.com>, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bad choice of license in BzrForEmacsDevs
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:02:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01d8a50911251602g7b7bd95fkd7042b161a03d187@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87iqcy8816.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

I am cc:ing Alex so he can take part.


On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:
> Richard Stallman writes:
>
>  > allowing GPLv2 and not GPLv3 is a very bad example.  We should not
>  > set a bad licensing example.
>
> Please get your lawyer to look at it.  It was the need of XEmacs for a
> license compatible with the unnamed, unversioned documentation license
> we inherited from Lucid (which presumably inherited it from Emacs 18
> and Emacs 19) that inspired the multiple licensing.  Alex wanted to
> generalize it, so the *intent* is that any license that grants the
> listed rights and requires that they be granted to those "downstream"
> of the licensee may be used.  GPLv3 clearly qualifies by the intent.
>
> I am fairly sure that Alex would be happy to modify the permission
> notice based on a lawyer's advice on how to accomplish his intention.
>
>  > In addition, I wonder about the other pages in that wiki have a
>  > similar license.
>
> All pages in the wiki are licensed that way.
>
> I spot-checked one of the major programs distributed on the wiki, Drew
> Adams's "icicles".  The pages describing the program say it is "GPL v2
> or later" although the pages have the standard permission notice for
> the wiki.  The libraries themselves contain the standard permission
> notice, for "GPL v2 or later".
>
> So I don't think there is a general problem with programs; anything
> large enough to have a separate file probably has the standard
> notice.  Snippets of code included directly in a page will have the
> page's license, of course, but AFAIK nobody using the wiki believes
> that the GPL is only permitted as version 2.  (I understand that what
> a court says may vary; please help Alex get the legal advice he needs
> to accomplish his intention.)
>
>
>
>
>




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-26  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-23  2:29 Bad choice of license in BzrForEmacsDevs Richard Stallman
2009-11-23  3:30 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23 20:37   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 21:12     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 22:47       ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-24 22:57         ` Jay Belanger
2009-11-24 23:06         ` Les Harris
2009-11-25  2:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 21:32     ` Jay Belanger
2009-11-25 21:01       ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25 21:19         ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-26  6:22           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25 21:32         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-25 21:52           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:52             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 22:02           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-26  6:23           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-26 15:47             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2009-11-26  8:52           ` David Kastrup
2009-11-26 16:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-26 17:41               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  2:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27  6:35                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-26  0:05         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-26  0:02           ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2009-11-25 18:44   ` Giorgos Keramidas

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