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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: Les Harris <lharris@gnome.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs for new users
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:16:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01d8a50911231316m61758b89v74f66ac813dc90c0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdh19cls.fsf@stupidchicken.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:
> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> With that said, I think a solution to the learning-emacs-in-classroom and
>>> emacs-for-new-users problems is the same: include a .emacs which turns
>>> on things like CUA mode to make operation more familiar.
>>
>> The problem is that it does not work as good as it could in all
>> situations. Since CUA is not the default not so much effort in getting
>> rid of all ruogh things. Not that you can't work around them, but it
>> is not so easy for a newcomer.
>
> The primary barrier to CUA is that it destroys the long-established
> standard that C-c LETTER is free for binding to Emacs user commands.
>
> So we won't be moving to CUA any time soon.  For those that want it,
> it's just a click away on the Options menu.


Yes, I am aware of the situation. It is still just as unfortunate however.

Putting cua-mode on the menus was a good step towards making it easier
for newcommers. Could we perhaps also apply my patches that shows C-c,
C-x etc on the edit menu when cua-mode is on?




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-23 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-23 16:37 Emacs for new users Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 16:59 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2009-11-23 18:47   ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 20:49     ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-26 22:35       ` bug#1305: Beeping (was: Emacs for new users) Juri Linkov
2009-11-26 22:35       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-26 23:12         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  4:12           ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27  6:48             ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 19:25               ` bug#1305: Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 19:25               ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 20:25                 ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 23:12                   ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 23:15                     ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-28  1:49                       ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-28  2:47                         ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 20:25                 ` bug#1305: Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  6:48             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  4:12           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-26 23:12         ` bug#1305: Beeping (was: Emacs for new users) Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 20:49     ` bug#1305: Emacs for new users Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 17:05 ` Stephen Eilert
2009-11-24 14:10   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-24 14:43     ` Renaud Casenave-Péré
2009-11-24 16:10       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-25 21:01       ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-30 23:02       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-24 15:51     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 16:41       ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 17:15         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:27           ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-24 17:35             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:51             ` Deniz Dogan
2009-11-24 18:37               ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-24 18:03           ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:06             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 18:22               ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:30                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 19:35                   ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 19:40                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:02           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25 21:04             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:57             ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:05               ` Drew Adams
2009-11-25 22:27                 ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:34                   ` Drew Adams
2009-11-26  6:23               ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 18:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 19:35   ` Les Harris
2009-11-23 20:28     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 21:04       ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 21:16         ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2009-11-23 21:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 22:05             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-30 22:55         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-30 23:01           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-01  9:13           ` Deniz Dogan
2009-12-01 10:13             ` Miles Bader
2010-11-13 19:14               ` separating CUA rectangles from CUA selection mode [was: Emacs for new users] Drew Adams
2009-11-23 21:16     ` Emacs for new users Stephen Eilert
2009-11-23 22:06       ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:43         ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:46           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 23:55           ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-24  6:43           ` tomas

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