From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: eval-after-load not harmful after all Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:40:31 +0200 Message-ID: References: <7b501d5c0908091634ndfba631vd9db6502db301097@mail.gmail.com> <998B83F771474211A37D1E2B6A497B61@us.oracle.com> <878whr9o4c.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <0AE832B5AEFE4453BB3E46F20DA29DE8@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250520085 10371 80.91.229.12 (17 Aug 2009 14:41:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 17 16:41:17 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Md3OM-0002VM-3S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:40:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46822 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Md3OL-0007li-Ig for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:40:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Md3O1-0007SL-1o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:40:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Md3Nw-0007Oe-Su for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:40:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60138 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Md3Nw-0007OX-Mt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:40:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:36852) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Md3Nw-0002p8-9p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:40:32 -0400 Original-Received: by yxe2 with SMTP id 2so3987443yxe.14 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:40:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uxilXoPBNucqO7oJ+pLJW9luuENb3gP0DTBjwaxYrbQ=; b=QGI5xfdJ1cG/7r0XLhBTPbMxSvGVR8Z4bWBJMtr5j/uSXs1xoXbDNVB0Oo5O63nM6D 2TIIldgwvf7Iq4xWEcYpgeeZzMeJrHxc/k/DqSq6ZX4RVkEV8iQfrDrH1yQA/IbZyFma xACjuhKKYK/F4kZmo0yjXa+9mQveCaxtrN7DI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EYi2xF4O0nOCsG4gIn+EohWTWuvreyaNybEID0kLZ1w7eLAn3tMbdBsvJ+tn+BnUe5 M0WvfyTEfJx7ZQ7Cmnkb6bniLVhzEAPxptrWS+4pzidXc30t9vEoteh6b874VIGso8wY XsIb7lVCeej9i2JMIRy+PmMf22n5Y3RN0LSAg= Original-Received: by 10.101.21.17 with SMTP id y17mr3401248ani.152.1250520031443; Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:40:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114340 Archived-At: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Leo wrote: > On 2009-08-17 12:55 +0100, Lennart Borgman wrote: >>> I just found out those are added from within simple.el. But they look to me >>> more like a last minute hack before release although I am not sure. >> >> I am afraid you are totally misunderstanding this. You will see that >> if you try to answer my question above. > > There's hardly room for misunderstanding. I admit that e-v-l is probably > the only tool available at the moment for dealing with this problem but > it is by no means the optimal way. If you think so, then try to suggest another way. If you can then I am admittedly misunderstanding this. BTW I think nxml-mode also should be checked this way. Could this please be added to Emacs?