From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: moving window handling into lisp Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:18:25 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4A868A1F.4020101@gmx.at> <4A86AD92.7030308@gmx.at> <87vdkpfbeg.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4A86DE30.8060902@gmx.at> <4A86F24D.4090103@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250360328 16533 80.91.229.12 (15 Aug 2009 18:18:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 15 20:18:41 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1McNpt-0005Ly-K4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:18:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36882 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1McNps-0005zL-Nm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:18:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1McNpo-0005zG-2c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:18:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1McNpi-0005yw-Kn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:18:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58861 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1McNpi-0005yt-H3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:18:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:61638) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1McNpi-0005yD-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:18:26 -0400 Original-Received: by yxe2 with SMTP id 2so2927151yxe.14 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:18:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tyJjmcL99/eReXzGbRX0fLe5dJlKWo8oVCXrPzxePpU=; b=cZ17StXpP7TWyNgw/wBKj+bXuoGPn9sbDvBctLXojQKDOXy1sItvawGs/ltoEwM7gU otUiusanoN7CwFzk1oHFnGqFN/7aV0XCsgPYr6YkALrChf8Ceonm38EncMXxYlTJe/TO Pj0UX1SVQaAccYLoPSXXC0GoRV4UJmJfz83YY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WKSEpvjZK5k+lrMUxkSSmsb5Ze7e8RFfDbe1cTFY6zYYC1WICvBtOO3AIruK2iKDjR DyVYLvd9bWv2rFJrXA9oMD73RQtoeHrShf9AKI1vVTPLKiWoP1mwyoXZhsYMZAo8AU7z Glgy2wjJbl4qqMsNl+hQQIaLJJr+Fwkiv6qbs= Original-Received: by 10.101.33.5 with SMTP id l5mr2443633anj.44.1250360305673; Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:18:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A86F24D.4090103@gmx.at> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114277 Archived-At: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:37 PM, martin rudalics wrote: >>> Well, and what would we do then? =C2=A0Could you sketch a dialogue? >> >> My idea is just to display a window with information about what >> happened and how to get the windows back. Is not that enough? > > Suppose the Emacs frame is a window in a tiling WM that just asked Emacs > to shrink that frame because the user needs it for another application. > Do you think that user would care about what Emacs tells how to get back > some old window configuration? =C2=A0And what would Emacs tell? =C2=A0Som= ething > like "try to delete some windows you currently can't see but could see > if you resized your frame to what it was before you wanted to shrink > it and after that carry on with your stupid application"? Maybe that is a case where we want to delete windows. I am not quite convinced yet. However in that case I would still suggest showing one window temporary and explain and give alternatives there. I can't see that it is worse than just deleting the windows. Just deleting the windows might look like a bug - or maybe just not be noticed, be confusing. > Believe me. =C2=A0Deleting windows in some way is the one bullet we do ha= ve > to bite here. > > martin >