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From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: Xah Lee <xah@xahlee.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fiddling with the menus
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:29:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e01d8a50908091629w6c93864fja6b7ad92530ffae@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdkwwpmg.fsf@mail.jurta.org>

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Juri Linkov<juri@jurta.org> wrote:
>> I agree that getting rid of the non-interactive search items in
>> Edit->Search would be a good simplification.
>
> Then we could replace these items with "Search files" (grep)
> and "Recursive grep" (rgrep) in Edit->Search.

One reason for keeping the "normal non-interactive search items" is
that this is what many new users are used to. Maybe place them one
sublevel down with an appropriate name?

Adding rgrep/lgrep would be very good.

I believe it also would be good to merge the "Search" and "Replace"
menus. For example there are elisp code for replacing grep matches.
Such functionality fits best right under rgrep/lgrep. The "Replace"
submenu is also very short.

Maybe adding more fucntionality to a new "Search and Replace" submenu
would make it long. However in my opinion it seems easier to find
things in such an organisation - even if we had to make more
sublevels. Finding/advertising is the important thing. (And again:
perhaps adding the menu items to M-x history...)


>> Maybe this will make sense at some point, but just activating it by
>> default in Emacs-23 required a fair bit of confrontation.  One of the
>> conditions to turn it on was that it be as easy as possible to turn it
>> back off, even in those cases where modifying the .emacs is not an
>> option (e.g. using someone else's Emacs).
>
> BTW, the Options menu should also contain an item to toggle
> `delete-selection-mode' since there is much demand for it.

Options / Confrontation Resolutions ...




  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-09 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-05  3:22 bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23! xah lee
2009-08-06  2:15 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-08 16:11   ` Xah Lee
2009-08-09  3:36     ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09  3:53       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09  5:13         ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 17:20         ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 17:56           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:10               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:21                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:54                       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:55                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 19:07                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 20:36                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:00                       ` Fiddling with the menus Jason Rumney
2009-08-09 23:14                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:46                           ` Jason Rumney
2009-08-10  1:51                       ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-10  3:03                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-10  3:26                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10  2:27               ` Fiddling with the menus Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10  2:32                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09  5:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09  9:51         ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-09 17:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:06             ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-09 18:17               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:24                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:59                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 22:54                     ` Jason Rumney
2009-08-10  1:12               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 17:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 23:14           ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-10  2:32             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10  3:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-11  5:06         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-11 13:03           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 12:37       ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Florian Beck
2009-08-09 17:52         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 17:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:05         ` Fiddling with the menus Richard Riley
2009-08-09 18:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-10  2:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10  3:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 23:09       ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-09 23:29         ` Lennart Borgman [this message]
2009-08-10  0:10           ` Drew Adams
2009-08-10  2:22           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 20:29     ` bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23! Richard Stallman

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