From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.nxml.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Re: nxml-mode, docbook, xinclude Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 13:58:20 +0200 Message-ID: References: <200806091145.04413.danc@merrillpress.com> <711a73df0908062206lbfbaf4ax6bb63b2c560c966c@mail.gmail.com> <711a73df0908070349o44e61dc4n5b4c86447b2dd727@mail.gmail.com> <711a73df0908070426u3618680bsd46ba2286c84693d@mail.gmail.com> <711a73df0908070434l62fa19a6s5125ec6ced5f5692@mail.gmail.com> <711a73df0908070451y67fb0446ida00e186fd9103c1@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: emacs-nxml-mode@yahoogroups.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249646359 20851 80.91.229.12 (7 Aug 2009 11:59:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-nxml-mode@yahoogroups.com, Emacs-Devel devel , Stefan Monnier , Chong Yidong To: Dave Pawson Original-X-From: sentto-10952198-1953-1249646347-geng-emacs-nxml-mode=m.gmane.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Aug 07 13:59:12 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geng-emacs-nxml-mode@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from n8-vm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([67.195.135.116]) by lo.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MZO6I-0008Ig-3C for geng-emacs-nxml-mode@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 13:59:10 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1249646348; bh=eyjQGT54G4W4QTv7jXu37kqI2nCpWBAvvf2ocvs7uIw=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID:To:Cc:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:X-Yahoo-Profile:Sender:MIME-Version:Mailing-List:Delivered-To:List-Id:Precedence:List-Unsubscribe:Date:Subject:Reply-To:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RfX6tgqq6mUCpFtwuKS7W1U7ucGkqeVwZn/oVwbroC7s507WMc1mwQj6nR2+dWTub7tNpmF2IQOgc1UDFvnqeuTfPXSv5nQnVFZgsRXgItTd/XKWCsKrNctvnjbhn6RW DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=YguvMHsYYUeIizNmqeo3ntRbldraVe6QSb0P00WnnhSs3IgcOLjA4sWyWhUU3vv5T/ziDzvE7lBypgE2VGPIJwsZJ00IrmA20A69jm4xYO+bGlklpXqMVNACVb/qqv+Z; Original-Received: from [67.195.134.48] by n8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2009 11:59:08 -0000 Original-Received: from [69.147.65.174] by t1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2009 11:59:08 -0000 Original-Received: from [69.147.108.196] by t12.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2009 11:59:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 10952198-m1953 X-Sender: lennart.borgman@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: emacs-nxml-mode@yahoogroups.com X-Received: (qmail 89421 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2009 11:59:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45) by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2009 11:59:03 -0000 X-Received: from unknown (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.247) by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2009 11:59:03 -0000 X-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id d40so356349and.34 for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:58:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.100.154.17 with SMTP id b17mr173386ane.83.1249646300318; Fri, 07 Aug 2009 04:58:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <711a73df0908070451y67fb0446ida00e186fd9103c1@mail.gmail.com> X-Originating-IP: 209.85.132.247 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0 X-Yahoo-Profile: nlborgman Original-Sender: emacs-nxml-mode@yahoogroups.com Mailing-List: list emacs-nxml-mode@yahoogroups.com; contact emacs-nxml-mode-owner@yahoogroups.com List-Id: Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email-tradt-u Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.nxml.general:1841 gmane.emacs.devel:113772 Archived-At: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Dave Pawson wrote: > 2009/8/7 Lennart Borgman : > >>>> Could you please explain how we should handle this in Emacs? (I have >>>> added Emacs Devel to the discussion.) >>> >>> Just my point. I don't think this should be an emacs issue >>> If you want docbook schema, html or any other schema >>> the end user should pick up that schema from the source >>> of that schema. >> >> Thanks. I see. >> >> I really think they should be part of Emacs distribution (as they are >> now) and wondered whether you have some suggestion regarding Docbook >> 4.5 and 5.0. There is now a schema for Docbook 4.2 in Emacs 22. > > 4.5 is the current Oasis standard. > As I said, either keep up or simply tell people where docbook is. > How many schemas are you going to try and manage? > > Suggest, if you want to track docbook schemas, you point people > to the appropriate place, not fall n versions behind. It is a very good point to show them where to get the newest version since Emacs and docbook schemas might not always be in sync. I think that should be in the documentation for nxml-mode in Emacs. But I think including schemas with Emacs is also very important. So I would suggest checking this for every new Emacs release (to Emacs Devel: Can we please put this in the to-do for new releases?). >> I know nothing about how to distinguish those in Emacs. > > Perhaps that's another good reason not to attempt to provide > docbook schemas for the emacs package you're delivering? > > How should the >> schemas be named so that Emacs can pick the right version according to >> the spec in the Docbook xml file? > > You need to see nxml-mode... the original. > James explained it there. Could you perhaps make a short summary? How do you yourself handle this for example? ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emacs-nxml-mode/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emacs-nxml-mode/join (Yahoo! 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