From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Blunderbuss ".dir-locals.el" raises everything in its path!! Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:47:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20090712144137.GB2524@muc.de> <87k52dycha.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4A5C2C96.4080802@swipnet.se> <43507.130.55.118.19.1247580320.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <20090714151327.GA1718@muc.de> <53864.130.55.118.19.1247586358.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <87r5whgzvg.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <0C244EB2B99349238E281268B0339C72@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247770095 28011 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2009 18:48:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 16 20:48:08 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MRVzz-0002hn-9z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:48:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36607 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRVzy-0002o0-Nn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:48:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRVzs-0002ki-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:48:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRVzn-0002fO-Pl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:47:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59871 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRVzn-0002fE-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:47:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com ([209.85.220.217]:56933) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MRVzn-000352-2p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:47:55 -0400 Original-Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so359428fxm.42 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:47:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3EK4zAEtfwxkirbwR2lxDAzDx4SPIA6DNusZCYHf4UE=; b=niiB+6zEZR8WvR/gCwIjvAMmQBUoa01R1LasN0gtka/Y8f12h3hn8kTHgzs3EInjxO SCo+1Y1q/YjmS0uI59wv9er8FJRtCRq0t9LeEQ3zqYoEQcwFeYpzmx/OtafML6Er5Ag8 RZz4X6ro/Y2NHhSFqaPuw7C2+sDD6UiKR861Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AU3LYej4DjHA/FhJNj29GefF6sVVt0ZOD7rgEvWHq5gv1fKYJYvW8Ord/rtvuENHlv OPg+yMRLAQ2LOIyp4v4ufFMYJqepEqM4Y+rm4rnqXH2QF51EPw4lNTjrPmf8ufRYIuRK iFDQHS+vVH44O6qa1To8BJLM4piynWhJSZwi0= Original-Received: by 10.223.113.68 with SMTP id z4mr15200fap.72.1247770073635; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:47:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112549 Archived-At: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> I think `message' should be improved to collect all messages coming >>> in quick succession and display all of them appended to the echo area. > >> Certainly not as the default behavior. Perhaps as an alternative behavior. > >> There is lots of code, I'm sure, that depends on one message supplanting a >> previous message. That is, the user is _supposed_ to see only the latest >> message, not a concatenation of the last several messages. > > Agreed, it needs to be a new function. > > Maybe we could create a new function (notify-user MSG &rest ARGS) which > would return immediately but display something in the echo area (or at > the end of the minibuffer) for (at least?) notify-user-time seconds. > > Several successive calls to it would just queue up messages that are > later displayed in turn (probably with some sort of "compaction" feature > so repeated messages don't bore the user to death). > > Maybe it should be integrated/combined with the display-warning facility. This is a quite difficult problem. I think messages should be classified someway. Now we have warning/message which are displayed quite differently. We also have debug messages which does not appear in the message buffer ("entered debugger ..."). - I think it should be integrated. - Showing important messages as Juri suggested seems good, but displaying everything that way is probably not good. - Using colors for classified messages is probably useful. (They should be kept in colors in the messages buffer too.)