From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: utf8 char display in buffer Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:59:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: <7I2dndeTy7sqkLLXnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@sysmatrix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244840503 15543 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2009 21:01:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Xah Lee Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 12 23:01:40 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MFDsU-00076Q-MY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:01:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36718 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MFDsU-0001IO-A0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:01:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MFDqL-0007in-KK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:59:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MFDqI-0007co-0H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:59:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38574 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MFDqH-0007cb-Nd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f216.google.com ([209.85.218.216]:38406) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MFDqH-0004NX-9J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0400 Original-Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so70714bwz.42 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=W5udozplTyyCNyXQFdS1tJyxpFUNR4GbJqupeSEy/eU=; b=lepWXP3jczKf1yfU8E3KaJAD/Jgv0LL7qaUZ6NB5ksVRUy5N7JmzpOO6afrXRsIuIn Fhga1kQHPHpMT2i2xEiVej/hSWo6Qf0mgftwmJSg+eQv//Y0yNRPVJoUYVa4Lo5cKiHr W6d/SSj8ybTbPDwt9gKWM4GNMr8WKsNgkfOlM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=N8v62fa5n/AVnLbJCtn9vCsTVbkP55BXZqR6QSCmlJEiJQiP9ft09a19lQG0iCGfjb 1rr/GcBvmVk4jz0SzOPpgRll3D8WKNig7Jpa4e5byIXOtKLhiUMPlaI6CxMeFz97S3PP H+W4XkoVhQzkEyMTPM+s8gu0ex+LmTOkn8yqU= Original-Received: by 10.239.152.193 with SMTP id w1mr300994hbb.41.1244840355052; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:65225 Archived-At: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Xah Lee wrote: > the list you gave above is from emacs? emacs's list always seems > strange to me... haven't really looked into it. maybe emacs's list is > really encompassing of all encoding that've existed, but it also could > be just screwed up like many open source things. I do not know these things, but from the discussions on Emacs devel it looks like those coding it in Emacs knows it very well. > For example, it > invents its own names by mixing up char set encoding with concepts of > EOL convention. It is a technical consideration. Hopefully it does not confuse anyone. > btw, who actually coded the low down levels of char encoding in emacs? > e.g. especially unicode, since it came after richard stallman still > doing the bulk of emacs. That person should be admirable. lol. Please look in the change log files. (I think you need to check out the sources to see those. Or look in the web interface for dito of course.)