From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lennart Borgman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: An Eclim frontend for Emacs (was: Is JDEE moribund? Is Emacs a viable Java devel environment?) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:33:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87y6tz12m2.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87ws9i6ggv.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87fxg6urhz.fsf_-_@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240058069 22577 80.91.229.12 (18 Apr 2009 12:34:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn , "Eric M. Ludlam" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 18 14:35:48 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lv9lm-0005Om-TJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:35:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45623 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lv9kN-00071g-Us for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lv9ji-0006rC-Vr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:33:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lv9je-0006nA-6o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:33:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33344 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lv9je-0006n0-0v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:33:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f209.google.com ([209.85.218.209]:46658) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lv9jd-0001vs-Kz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:33:29 -0400 Original-Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so75248bwz.42 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:33:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=82XR1uOr+Ca/EJTVvgIO5AQ2yJzQVOG5RBQklpenioA=; b=x6GrixjOckaL/GHMB/Nhp7cHnFN8g8qrC5CoI3JYllg0fMPXTpTNvCgVfuLt25Cvma 1KKwjTwhZh3JwHixskjfnwFJXHrQy1fZmIKFM5XevBJuJIo5EE+sk5Kh0Dd4ts2YIhof hH0RzuZlh8x1kt1nJVU9wgirCsYPrriK2VBjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oZoTMu89LweOSyca54g1c28YaBowE7K6OBuoJdnQlwDSoWBzNIhm6LgCq4EvsHgmAS VkxWKD7rt3IkL3opgXbszNwNEVlXJiWbjh0SwsPOyrb9bHcGEGbkgWYW0/1l2Lmb1+po OCEbu6vvKW2eKTVQMg3bhQWiOLIIJo5c/+zzw= Original-Received: by 10.223.110.211 with SMTP id o19mr1053002fap.57.1240058008424; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:33:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fxg6urhz.fsf_-_@thinkpad.tsdh.de> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:63841 Archived-At: On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Tassilo Horn wrot= e: > Lennart Borgman writes: > > Hi Lennart, > >>>> There has been very much done to CEDET now. Would it not be a good >>>> idea to use CEDET for an interface to eclim? >>> >>> CEDET uses another approach. =C2=A0It has it's own parsers and analyzer= s >>> which enable it to do smart autocompletion and other intelligent >>> stuff. =C2=A0This works quite well for C/C++, because Eric has put a lo= t >>> of effort into it, and I highly appreciate that. >> >> Maybe I am misunderstanding this, but I thought that CEDET is written >> so that it can use external parsers etc. > > No, AFAIK CEDET uses it's own wisent parser generator and its own > grammars. =C2=A0And even if you get the syntax tree out of that parser, i= t's > a long way to do something sophisticated with it. As I understand it CEDET has it's own wisent parser, but it can use other parsers too. (I am cc:ing Eric so he can inform us.) > Eclim lets the editor do what it can do best -- editing text. =C2=A0If it= 's > capable of issuing commands on the command line and receiving the > output, then it can use all of eclipse's intelligence. =C2=A0I think this= a > good deal. =C2=A0Eclipse will never become a decent editor, and emacs has= not > the resources to catch up when it comes to understanding and analyzing > java (and probably other languages such as Scala) source code. > > Bye, > Tassilo > -- > No person, =C2=A0no idea, and no =C2=A0religion deserves to be =C2=A0ille= gal to insult, > not even the Church of Emacs. (Richard M. Stallman) >