From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs's popularity (was: Distributed Maintenance for Emacs) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:07:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: <2103fd36-c5cd-4e8d-a74f-34697a369934@a26g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <003101c954de$f95a3000$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87skop8cc7.fsf@iki.fi> <20081215210907.GB3848@groll.co.za> <00aa01c95f00$fc27b830$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229379034 14090 80.91.229.12 (15 Dec 2008 22:10:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:10:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Jonathan Groll , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Teemu Likonen To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 15 23:11:37 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LCLf2-00069A-74 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:11:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35928 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LCLdq-0000co-4w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:10:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LCLbD-0007oT-G9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:07:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LCLbC-0007nx-4i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:07:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34067 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LCLbB-0007nr-TM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:07:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]:9964) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LCLbB-0008UM-6D for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:07:33 -0500 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1413834fgb.30 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:07:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=PXNvNNeuDyWTSX2a0PwPzIp46t/tje2f5+BwEMkFL+0=; b=YM7P/D4ceEWFElLEKnMqe2GfZijnf5eQv1ASaq0E4vXKRpTbxfBMkgXSDWgz49t2C+ 5m7ettN24PraxxkKSjU/iXgEFUURXFBydAGmqDYtY+ZF2dKvhodjGkMxnkhXZas8OznV Yavmts+2pVdcmB1aT0COw0nMNBZh7g+mzH/AU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=NIZwJX/JlZ7c/P/p7xvwki05wc+eCHVC13KdAJM69obszj4szeqFJd3IlVt5LxMgjP 0rgTr9s+kahyYwFJlkO2JXljh69FYHQO3ZI3qb4yyeot4qsZfoeYySQPsI2i5s7G4NRA GcBWREVJUBR3cjXe0TL+h/17Gok4mOyLHZoLY= Original-Received: by 10.86.53.8 with SMTP id b8mr4111225fga.58.1229378851083; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:07:31 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.86.74.11 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:07:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <00aa01c95f00$fc27b830$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60652 Archived-At: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > Hm. Dunno why that should make one sad. I would never use vi or vim (unless I > had to), but I don't see why I should be sad or bothered if other people find it > useful. One person likes to live in the forest; another prefers the city; a > third the shore. > > Why the need to make Emacs the most popular? It's good to make Emacs better, but > what's the popularity contest about? Perhaps Americans on average listen to > Britney Spears more than Mozart or Muddy Waters. So what? > > On the other hand, info about the relative use of different Emacs versions is > (mildly) interesting and might be helpful in some ways. It might also be worthwhile thinking about why vi clones are more popular than Emacs.