From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs, oldsters, newbiness Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:21:19 +0200 Message-ID: References: <251d6b72-b760-411b-8c35-83a7788e2491@u75g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <56aa1c42-303b-4150-8d96-9159487244e2@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <7343b66f-7262-466c-8975-9774dce22d88@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <7bddb878-9f4c-4140-827c-83cd29c96e5f@l77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <372adbcc-d97b-453c-8ddc-3a7f1abb0b23@l62g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <87tzb26y7p.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224872522 17278 80.91.229.12 (24 Oct 2008 18:22:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Alex Schroeder To: "Paul R" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 20:23:03 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KtRJI-0001bx-VQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:22:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48778 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtRID-000774-0A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:21:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtRHo-00076z-TG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:21:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtRHm-00076n-5s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:21:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55228 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtRHm-00076k-1U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:21:22 -0400 Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.168]:51098) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KtRHl-0002jd-NE for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id z36so307765uge.17 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:21:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Z6KFcrQVOx5g2q5bbxsKh3m2/dodTJCSb/B1Hm4+nng=; b=pziOfpMdLjmwUM7QTPhjfd+3+mKKt8RrrMPfaabM+PZA+6WYRaF9/78dWVQYHyz2Un BK8fP8zYCgcTnGnB8xyaiRpA2YHnFZDW23OAvMdj5SdJ4K8JderDaMiJrNi8WuwQddh5 wP2ZH5uPnVQfrssFYO3JxqIChGdSy+zl077QU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=I0LlWHrUcCg5vxCTmSyXy7MDSQkIhd7NeDLqCYi4Z/ppxp/pjqT3PY5bz35u8rrK44 ZIDcWTw9sZa5Gaf7Fm/B7o0ZV8A8V1szQxs3Zuw/Vb2WQtY7QRMQAzw85Z4bKz2mT0bA v3mg3GIN5BIihU7HMBmm+0RLj5knFTk6UfLsg= Original-Received: by 10.181.229.12 with SMTP id g12mr1031438bkr.176.1224872479845; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.86.65.3 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:21:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87tzb26y7p.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59136 Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Paul R wrote: > Yes, the content in EmacsWiki is very valuable. Yet, I undertand there > is room for improvement for finding documentation, and putting in in > shape to ease learning. But the most we talk about it, the more > I think it would be best as a separate project, working > collaboratively with emacswiki, picking some precious informations and > putting them in shape to provide information in a more comprehensive > shape for external readers. I think some people call that second project "Emacs" ;-) Why not work on improving the documentation inside the Emacs project along those lines? Or is there some problem doing that? Even if most of the documentation in Emacs are in Info format there are links to other documentation too, in html format.