From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Lennart Borgman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Wiki Revision History Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:53:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <251d6b72-b760-411b-8c35-83a7788e2491@u75g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <68deb805-c16f-48ec-96a1-5dd8fd7e5e48@x1g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <56aa1c42-303b-4150-8d96-9159487244e2@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <87ljwhaskz.fsf@gmail.com> <00ae870f-cb98-4cc4-a992-cc3e40e76f9a@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224802442 2054 80.91.229.12 (23 Oct 2008 22:54:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Alex Schroeder" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 24 00:55:03 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kt94x-0002dB-Kn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:54:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58018 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kt93q-0003Sf-CE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:53:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kt93M-0003Gd-2W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:53:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kt93J-0003Ez-Uq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:53:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51973 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kt93J-0003Ev-Pg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.190]:1765) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kt93I-0000TZ-TT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so332302mue.6 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:53:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+R18vh4sY70Og/o09SRumHCoctEupnO2s3o8LnoDBqc=; b=hjUaLU6QEySMuub0g6opzH7NtE6f7r7AyizaEW6CI9SA41KjlvB6NJjRZOwhYlnEfl YUsyJFH+vLyYndw4tictixGpTkcjSy51N7SSvBaP9OWhrSH3+MA/zUaZ1ECoFJMkh74h dcOyQkQyCgxSwcIcplFgPS5WM8IpfAhB+BA3k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=gSlhtnzVSYogAMtK812C6b3WKWsafcxlZEjplmWf6mgS/2Rh5uOU5uBW5usG2R8okf 8oBPWy88t0fxCZAbg9QYyz6GKV8thIhWp2FZ/DplHo4XAWlGznk2BE9JbwLqifmRfTC7 Tf8ow7mufZrRrMcw4vDU2wASUv/2OZnC13m9A= Original-Received: by 10.181.238.16 with SMTP id p16mr404586bkr.213.1224802388979; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.86.65.3 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:53:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00ae870f-cb98-4cc4-a992-cc3e40e76f9a@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59099 Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Alex Schroeder wrote: > On 23 Okt., 16:35, Bastien wrote: >> The "doku" from "dokuwiki" tells it: it was first designed with the >> purpose of letting people write good documentation collaboratively. > > Hm. It seems that "write good documentation collaboratively" can be > achieved with any tool that allows authors to collaborate when writing > text. I'd be surprised if the software used can make a mediocre text > "good". I think EmacsWiki is a very good invention, but there are some things that I have been missing. Those things falls in between good collaboration and assisting software. What I am thinking of is marking advices and code with notes about where they work or/and are tested. Simple examples are Emacs version, but it could also be combinations of different kinds (using a minor mode together with a certain major mode etc). I believe the wiki software could provide some help for structuring this but I do not even have an idea for the structure and far less for what assistance the software could give. It looks difficult but useful to me. Perhaps this could grow spontaneously on the wiki with time, perhaps some assistance by the software is needed. I believe in the latter but I fear any assistance of that kind might put too much restrictions on writing. When I have come that far in my thoughts I am a bit stuck.