From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trunk still not open Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:13:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <6xwqfxhl88.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83txb1mcsy.fsf@gnu.org> <87siqlku0i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wqfxari2.fsf@yandex.ru> <87ha70kyy3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395072797 3711 80.91.229.3 (17 Mar 2014 16:13:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 16:13:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 17 17:13:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WPaAI-0007cM-0y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:13:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58930 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPaAH-0001IU-HC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:13:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60445) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPaAE-0001HD-97 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:13:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPaAD-0003yd-E7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:13:22 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59920) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPaAD-0003yZ-Al for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:13:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WPaAB-0006SB-VO; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:13:20 -0400 X-Spook: NWO colonel quarter Iran Vickie Weaver CESID Afghanistan X-Ran: &_S;E|&;m"unP4=9.6ti",xFVsS`pxqP,a7;4?ns.qLdFLp9b|G1_h6sF%81HvY5,5J/uX X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Stefan's message of "Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:32:42 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170444 Archived-At: Stefan wrote: > [...] I'm in favor of being more strict w.r.t documentation. But in > many cases, code is installed in a non-definitive way, so it's > convenient to install the code first, then fix up some of it based on > user's feedback and only later write the doc. That saves us the time > of documenting the intermediate state. This is absolutely fine by me, and basically what I had in mind when I said: I think that in future there needs to be more of a culture of people at least trying to document their own changes, around the time they make them. Not "document it right away", but "don't leave it 12 months till the next release for some other sucker to do, while you go off and develop the next shiny thing."