From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: mode to allow eg vi or vim WITHIN *SHELL* -- forgot its name Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Public Access Networks Corp. Message-ID: References: <85y82xb5xz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133978510 14770 80.91.229.2 (7 Dec 2005 18:01:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 07 19:01:49 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek3Xa-0006Uw-Iv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:57:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ek3Xp-0006Kz-Rz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:57:33 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 57 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix1.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1133971752 18292 166.84.1.1 (7 Dec 2005 16:09:12 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 16:09:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:136136 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:31748 Archived-At: In article <85y82xb5xz.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>, David Kastrup wrote: >dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) writes: > >> I think it was in a recent thread -- a mode-like .el-file that >> once executed would all you to freely use cursor-moving >> programs like vi, vim, page, and the like, within an >> ordinary *shell* window. > >No. > >> What was the name of it? (And where to find it, too?) > >M-x term RET > >comes with Emacs, but it certainly does not use a *shell* window. > >-- >David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum THANK YOU!!!! THAT TERM.EL IS SO INCREDIBLY COOL! (I learned that term.el is an upgrade of ansi-term.el, which .el is the one I had previously tried, forgot its name, and posted here! term.el seems much better?) >comes with Emacs, but it certainly does not use a *shell* window. OK -- but it *does* immediately want to run a shell, default (here only?) being /bin/csh. So it's *like* a *shell*, no? Anyway, yes, I *can* indeed run vi within it. Pretty damn neat! ------ You know, it sure would be nice if people could make a (separate) wiki (or something) of the not-totally-obvious .el-files, with just a short blurb for each (not full doc!), saying what it *does* and (most importantly) *why you'd want to use it*. Like, some things it enables you to do, eg for term.el that it gives you an emacs-buffer *within which you can (amazingly!) run things like vi*. Even (for those where possible) a succinct one-liner. Would likely result in a VAST increase in benefits from emacs-usage! David