From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Defaults for set-variable Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:45:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87acgkzrcl.fsf@jurta.org> <858xw4616k.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <871x1vwhru.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131479562 27936 80.91.229.2 (8 Nov 2005 19:52:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 08 20:52:35 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZZU5-0005Vi-OT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:50:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZZU4-0005yy-3Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:50:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EZZTV-0005y8-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:49:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EZZTT-0005x3-Vi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:49:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZZTT-0005wS-AN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:49:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1EZZTT-0001cU-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:49:43 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EZZRF-00040N-TP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:47:26 +0100 Original-Received: from 207.167.42.60 ([207.167.42.60]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:47:25 +0100 Original-Received: from ihs_4664 by 207.167.42.60 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:47:25 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.167.42.60 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041105) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <871x1vwhru.fsf@jurta.org> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:45600 Archived-At: Juri Linkov wrote: > In regard to `set-variable', the Emacs manual contains in the node > (info "(emacs)Examining"): > > `C-h v VAR ' > Display the value and documentation of variable VAR > (`describe-variable'). > > `M-x set-variable VAR VALUE ' > Change the value of variable VAR to VALUE. > > This clearly indicates that these commands are complementary: > `describe-variable' displays the value of any variable, and > `set-variable' changes its value. It unambiguously says that > it changes a variable, not an user option. > > The current implementation contradicts the command name `set-variable' > and its documentation. > > I see only one way to avoid this inconsistency - to have two commands: > `set-variable' for setting variables, and `set-user-option' for setting > user options. Why not `C-u M-x set-variable' to set any variable (not just user options), just like `C-u M-x apropos-variable' shows all variables. -- Kevin Rodgers