From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: irenezerafa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51819: The Senselessness of Emacs Company Mode Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:12:23 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87k0hbfryj.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: irenezerafa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9909"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 51819@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 20:13:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mn3tK-0002Lb-Vh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 20:13:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43230 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mn3tJ-0002nx-OA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:13:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38436) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mn3t8-0002nV-Pw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47695) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mn3t8-0001eB-Ht for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mn3t8-0000ml-Db for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:13:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: irenezerafa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51819 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 51819-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51819.16370899552942 (code B ref 51819); Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:13:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51819) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2021 19:12:35 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59239 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mn3sg-0000lO-Od for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:12:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-40135.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.135]:48389) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mn3se-0000kr-Ow for 51819@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:12:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1637089946; bh=c2CN2GDMdVjxo6CJIOyAXm+zSk6Xo0yOeX8tC12oOaM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=sRVjsLK3UWCvq4SJlWcph9zMRcT4saaxDgzkcth/k6v1ZtiwXCSGubNSH688DBqG1 BQYib+ADaCoELj50fonRzvktAeNVrOuPEc4dcbFJtUc4xeKc++yK880xzspRIjU+R8 aEve9ELbn0qR0u7h9CzY7NbSt+4Ywk9nMNAgOqhU= In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:220145 Archived-At: =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Monday, November 15th, 2021 at 4:53 AM, Richard Stallman w= rote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > I am installing Company Mode so I can use auto completion. Let me > > > show you how beautiful that is using the emacs way. For most people, > > > they do "M-x list-packages" and search for "company". They get about > > > 70 matches for "company-mode" which add compatibility for other modes= . > > I think most people are able to figure out that they should add the > > package called "company" if they want to install Company. > > Why do people use the term "Company Mode", if its name is simply > "Company"? I get the impression the former is a misnomer. Is it a > misnomer? > If it is a misnomer, do we say anything that encourages it? We could > change what we say, so as to avoid promoting the term "Company mode". > Maybe we should write it as "Comp-any" to make the meaning clear. The main problem is not company-mode in itself, but the fact that one has to install the related functionality for each language one is using. Rather, company-mode should recognise the language if needed and act accordingly. This makes company-mode a very odd implementation.