From: Christian Schlauer <cs-muelleimer-rubbish.bin@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: Better default values for tooltip padding and `tooltip-hide-delay'?
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:05:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dhun84$8gj$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1EMrsb-0006th-PU@fencepost.gnu.org
"Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> wrote about `occur-mode': I like to highlight the match I'm currently
> interested in by putting the mouse on that line in the *Occur* buffer
> so that that line is highlighted in green. But then a part of that
> line (and a part in the line above it) will be covered by "mouse-2: go
> to this occurrence" for 10 seconds. Most tooltips are of that length,
> it seems to me.
>
> I understand the scenario, but I am not sure what to do about it.
> Perhaps put the tooltip some distance up or down from the mouse
> position?
There is already some offset. Maybe `tooltip-x-offset' and
`tooltip-y-offset' are responsible for that, but they are not
documented:
,----[ C-h v tooltip-x-offset RET ]
| tooltip-x-offset's value is nil
|
| Not documented as a variable.
|
| You can customize this variable.
|
| Defined in `tooltip'.
|
| [back]
`----
> Would that be good?
I think the current offset is fine. I'd prefer a shorter
`tooltip-hide-delay' (4 seconds instead of 10), but that depends on
how long a tooltip may be. The Gnome Human Interface Guidelines say
"While tooltips should not be verbose, they should be longer and more
descriptive than the item's name."
<URL:http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/desktop-integration.html#menu-item-tooltips>.
I think the "not be verbose" also suggests (quite) short tooltips.
Now I found this message
<URL:http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2001-10/msg00379.html>
where /you/ suggest to change it to 10 seconds. I guess that makes any
attempts to change it back futile ;-)
Maybe we could agree on leaving `tooltip-hide-delay' as is (I'll
customize it then) and just change the `padding'? There were only
positive comments about reducing the padding (by you, Lennart and
Jason).
> Second example: when diffing with `M-x ediff-buffers', there can be
> `fine differences' (highlighted in light and dark blue) in a
> `difference region'. Then I often `read' on the screen with the mouse
> pointer in the difference region, but actually I can't do that because
> /all the time/ there pops up
>
> Would the change I suggested above help with this case?
>
> Maybe this is ediff's
> fault and ediff should be changed to be less `aggressive'?
>
> Sorry, I do not understand. What change in behavior of ediff
> are you suggesting?
The more I think about it, I think the best would be to remove the
tooltips that pop up when hovering with the mouse over a difference
region.
As I wrote in my reply to Stefan: in short, I don't understand what
the tooltips "Difference region 1 -- non-current" and "Difference
region 1 -- current" that pop up in difference regions are supposed to
tell me. The difference regions are not mouse-sensitive in a special
way, mouse-1/2/3 work as usual, so there is no special function for
mouse-1/2/3 that has to be explained, and the tooltip string tells me
things I can see somewhere else (which difference region I am in) and
things I don't understand ("non-current" and "current").
--
Christian Schlauer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-10-04 20:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-07-17 15:10 Better default values for tooltip padding and `tooltip-hide-delay'? Christian Schlauer
2005-07-17 19:30 ` Drew Adams
2005-07-18 6:43 ` Frank Schmitt
2005-09-30 17:04 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-09-30 21:16 ` Jason Rumney
2005-09-30 23:03 ` Frank Schmitt
2005-10-01 13:17 ` Jason Rumney
2005-10-01 13:49 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-03 16:27 ` Kevin Rodgers
2005-10-01 1:19 ` Daniel Brockman
2005-10-01 8:08 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-01 14:38 ` Daniel Brockman
2005-10-01 17:19 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-01 21:25 ` Daniel Brockman
2005-10-01 22:33 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-02 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-02 15:04 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-03 18:49 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-03 20:17 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-03 22:22 ` Jason Rumney
2005-10-04 18:14 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-04 21:27 ` Jason Rumney
2005-10-05 17:30 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-07 10:30 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-05 22:45 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-04 5:02 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-01 23:25 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-03 18:35 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-03 20:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-04 18:35 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-04 19:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-04 18:51 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-04 20:05 ` Christian Schlauer [this message]
2005-10-05 17:32 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-05 18:11 ` David Kastrup
2005-10-04 21:38 ` Jason Rumney
2005-10-04 23:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-04 23:15 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-05 8:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-05 17:34 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-05 22:45 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-08 16:49 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-09 3:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-09 18:16 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-09 21:32 ` Drew Adams
2005-10-09 21:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-10 15:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-10-11 19:06 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-11 20:48 ` Chong Yidong
2005-10-11 23:20 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-12 21:33 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-12 21:43 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-10-13 0:51 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-14 16:24 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-13 20:10 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-21 17:30 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-22 4:18 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-22 11:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-25 19:23 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-26 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-27 18:15 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-27 19:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-27 21:05 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-10-28 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-03 17:37 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-11-04 10:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-04 17:57 ` Christian Schlauer
2005-11-04 21:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-22 23:07 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-10-11 23:46 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-13 4:53 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-14 4:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-10-14 17:37 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-13 4:53 ` Richard M. Stallman
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