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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261216 Archived-At: > > What has been suggested is that only modes where it makes sense should > > enable the toolbar (and there probably aren't that many where it makes > > much sense). >=20 > Maybe there code be something like a "fade-in" toolbar, i.e. normally > the toolbar is hidden but when the mouse pointer moves over the top > border it becomes visible. `tool-bar+.el' offers something very close to that, but without the automatic annoyance of it popping up without explicitly clicking something. No one has commented on it. Perhaps no one has bothered to try it? It's a single file; just load it to try it. https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/tool-bar%2b.el https://emacswiki.org/emacs/ToolBar