From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: rms@gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: delete-other-frames
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:41:03 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfec8f14-9868-439f-a12d-4b6465c85144@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<E1bdlPn-0005Ch-I4@fencepost.gnu.org>>
> > 1. If there is only one frame in the discussion, and @var{f}
> > is a name for it, then "delete the frame, @var{f}" is correct.
>
> You're right. I must have been in a daze.
You're human. ;-)
> > But if there might be more than one frame in the discussion,
> > and @var{f} is the one we are concerned with at present, then
> > this is correct: "delete the frame @var{f}". (Note: no comma.)
> > And so is this: "delete frame @var{f}".
>
> Yes. Exactly. A comparable example in algebra is "Square the number x."
>
> > 2. I think Eli was talking about something different, but
> > related: the fact that in Emacs doc the name of a parameter
> > is often chosen to be a type name,
>
> Grammatically, it does not matter whether the argument's name is f or
> frame. In the first case, the sentence should be, "delete the frame
> @var{f}", shortened to "delete frame @var{f}". In the second case,
> the sentence should be, "delete the frame @var{frame}", shortened to
> "delete frame @var{frame}".
>
> Whether the argument name is the same as the description, or not,
> has no effect.
>
> and a convention is to
> > omit the type noun to which the restrictive appositive
> > applies and let the parameter name stand alone.
>
> > IOW, if the name of the individual echoes the name of the
> > type then we can get by with just the individual name.
>
> It is grammatical to omit the description of the argument, and use
> just its name. There must be no article, in this usage.
Right.
> > Example:
> > Just "copy FILE to DIRECTORY",
>
> Here FILE and DIRECTORY are both names of argument values,
> so they must have no articles.
>
> "copy F to D"
>
> is equally grammatical, but it is clear only if the reader already
> knows that F is a file and D is a directory. Otherwise, we need to
> say so.
>
> "copy the FILE to the DIRECTORY"
>
> is grammatically incorrect because you can't put an article on a name.
Yes.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-28 0:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-23 8:19 delete-other-frames martin rudalics
2016-08-23 14:09 ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-23 17:56 ` delete-other-frames Richard Copley
2016-08-23 18:31 ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-23 19:55 ` delete-other-frames Richard Copley
2016-08-24 9:07 ` delete-other-frames martin rudalics
2016-08-24 9:06 ` delete-other-frames martin rudalics
2016-08-25 9:16 ` delete-other-frames martin rudalics
2016-08-25 14:46 ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-27 1:32 ` delete-other-frames Richard Stallman
2016-08-27 7:40 ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<E1bdSUT-00059T-8W@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-08-27 6:31 ` delete-other-frames Drew Adams
2016-08-27 7:45 ` delete-other-frames Eli Zaretskii
2016-08-27 13:32 ` delete-other-frames allan gottlieb
2016-08-27 13:40 ` delete-other-frames allan gottlieb
2016-08-27 21:45 ` delete-other-frames Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<49a2a9c7-8573-4f07-897f-3eb444679d8a@default>
[not found] ` <<E1bdlPn-0005Ch-I4@fencepost.gnu.org>
2016-08-28 0:41 ` Drew Adams [this message]
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