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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>, Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>,
	12507@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:29:58 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfdc3c0b-1f71-4dbb-918a-5fc78c5b52d7@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r1qxrgs1.fsf@gnus.org>

> > No, `write-region' should not, itself, make a backup file.
> 
> No, but there should perhaps be a global mechanism for modes to decide
> whether the data it writes should have backup files, and these modes
> should then call a wrapper around `write-region' that does this stuff.
> 
> And it should be user-customisable, if it exists.

Huh?  This is about a particular context (mode, if
you like).  In _this particular context_ the proper
behavior is to use `write-file'.  There's zero reason
to use `write-region' in this context.  And to fix
this context in this regard there's zero reason to
propose some far-reaching, general change to
`write-region'.

`write-region' is simply the wrong function to use
in this context.  Trying to generalize this for all
contexts is a different solution (in search of a
problem).

The subject of this bug report is:
"`bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not
`write-region' , to get backups"

To be clear, if this isn't clear already: This
doesn't affect me or my code, personally, because
I fixed this long ago in Bookmark+.  I'm just
trying to help vanilla Emacs DTRT.

There's a real bug here, which I can attest to
because Bookmark+ users have lamented not having
backed up their bookmark files (before I fixed the
code to use `write-file').

There's no reason to expect or require users to
manually back up their bookmark files, especially
when it's trivial for Emacs itself to DTRT and
provide backup by default.  By _default_.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-19 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87bogubqjy.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <handler.s.C.13485522721217.transcript@debbugs.gnu.org>
2012-09-25 13:53   ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Drew Adams
2012-09-26  2:53     ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-26  3:18       ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26  4:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 14:19           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 20:31               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 21:46         ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-26 22:26           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 23:36             ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 15:48             ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 16:00               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 17:57                 ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27  3:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-24 18:41             ` bug#12507: 24.2.50; `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Drew Adams
2012-09-27  5:38               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-27 18:37                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 21:16                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28  9:04                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28 20:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29  7:42               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 14:36                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 15:12                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 15:51                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:20               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 16:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:57                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-10-01  3:38               ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:06                 ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so docstring " Drew Adams
2012-10-01  4:13               ` bug#12507: Have I mentioned how much I hate Debbugs? Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-10-01 21:23                   ` Karl Fogel
2012-10-01 22:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-10-02  5:31                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2020-11-29  1:07               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Karl Fogel
2012-09-27  8:36         ` bug#12507: `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Juri Linkov
2012-09-27 15:02           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-18 15:02       ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 16:23         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-19 14:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 17:29             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-09-23  6:41               ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-23 13:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 13:58                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-29  5:27                       ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 14:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 14:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 18:13                   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 18:14                 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-29  5:25                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 15:45                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-29  0:28                       ` Karl Fogel

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