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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249585 Archived-At: On 09.05.2020 22:55, Clément Pit-Claudel wrote: > Let's not be too hasty with calling the debate silly. I don't use either lsp-mode or eglot but I do see strong opinions in favor of both, and "blessing" one as official, especially a (currently) less popular one, can cause sour feelings and give the perception that emacs-devel is being insular. In principle, I disagree: as long as Eglot is maintained and works well, we *should* present it as "blessed", and we can do that in introduction videos, documentation, tutorials, etc. After all, adding it to GNU ELPA was a good move, one that will benefit Emacs users at large.