From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: print out all members of a list, v.1.0 Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 21:33:56 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <4D6BBD34.6050407@mousecar.com> <4D6BD989.9010102@mousecar.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299044498 9255 80.91.229.12 (2 Mar 2011 05:41:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:41:38 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 02 06:41:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PueoQ-0007Up-CW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 06:41:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48266 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PueoP-0005wx-LL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:41:25 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!postnews.google.com!k10g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 27 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 116.73.35.230 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1299044038 12262 127.0.0.1 (2 Mar 2011 05:33:58 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k10g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=116.73.35.230; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13,gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:185529 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:79684 Archived-At: On Mar 2, 9:51=A0am, Barry Margolin wrote: > In article > , > > =A0rusi wrote: > > yes it is. emacs lisp became obsolete when scheme and common lisp came > > out -- which is about 30 years ago. > > How is that possible, since Emacs Lisp came out AFTER Scheme and Common > Lisp? =A0CLtL was published in 1984, the same year Stallman started > writing GNU Emacs? =A0And Scheme is older, since CL took a number of idea= s > from it (most notably lexical scoping). Ok I stand corrected technically. I was speaking more generically -- elisp as a member of the dynamically scoped 2-lisp family. ie. to the family of {MAC,Franz,UCI}-lisps that preceded scheme and CL. [Personal note: I did my degree project in mid 80s writing a lisp interpreter. The only reference I had was the UCI lisp manual. I thought the scoping (I had implemented) was strange (static/dynamic etc were no words I knew then). After I finished I got hold of the CL manual and then had the 'Aha: ' The goofup was not mine!]