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([2a02:a03f:58ad:c200:62c:93d2:1964:ca7c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z18sm3747170wmk.46.2020.05.10.09.18.28 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 May 2020 09:18:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: fr Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32c; envelope-from=colinetnathan98@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32c.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 May 2020 12:21:03 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249670 Archived-At: Thank you for your reply. I would happily help on that video (for the content) but I'm definitely not qualified to shoot/realise it, I don't even have a decent micro. I think if we want this video to have the desired effect the FSF or GNU (don't know who's in charge) might need to pay someone to realise it. Regards, Nathan On 2020-05-08 12:41, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Nathan Colinet writes: > >> I started using emacs a year ago and when I started everything was >> really confusing, what is a frame, what is a buffer, how to install >> packages, what are major and minor modes, etc.. I wanted to give up but > Welcome to Emacs! You made the right choice. > >> then I saw a 1 hour talk about Emacs that shows how powerful it is. Then >> I was hooked. Unfortunately the sound was no good at all and it was way >> too long. I think it could be really benefic for emacs to have a 5-10 >> minutes video that would present Emacs not as an old obscure porgram but >> as an amazing fresh looking tool that drastically improves efficiency. > This is a very good idea. The only problem is that someone has to do > it. :-) > > Would you be prepared to volunteer for working on that? > >> I think people nowadays need an out-of-the-box experience, that's why >> promoting doom-emacs or spacemacs might be better than the default >> Emacs. > This is valuable input, I think. > > Best regards, > Stefan Kangas