From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: if vs. when vs. and: style question now Unicode Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 08:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87sicvwckx.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87wq27yvqg.fsf@debian.uxu> <8d531e99-7260-4263-ac99-09c6871e2708@googlegroups.com> <87vbhq53lf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a8z23p23.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87lhilx0cf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twx9360u.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <0d1d19ab-06e9-462d-8867-9a49b1e232d3@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427297140 864 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2015 15:25:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:25:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 25 16:25:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YanBH-0000lF-Hy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 16:25:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39750 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YanBH-0005bm-0A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:25:19 -0400 X-Received: by 10.140.149.195 with SMTP id 186mr11072195qhv.0.1427297043970; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 08:24:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.141.134 with SMTP id ro6mr226975igb.0.1427297043916; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 08:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!z107no4758206qgd.0!news-out.google.com!db6ni62798igc.0!nntp.google.com!z20no4842855igj.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=117.195.49.60; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 117.195.49.60 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:24:03 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:211038 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103319 Archived-At: On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 8:22:28 PM UTC+5:30, Dan Espen wrote: > Rusi writes: >=20 > > On a different note... > > For 50 years CS has been living in the impoverished world of ASCII. > > This makes people think CS and math are more far apart than they essent= ially/really are. > > > > I wrote this as my wish for python: > > http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicoded-python.html > > Isn't it about time lisp also considered a similar line? >=20 > I can't type it, I sure don't want to see it in source code. Strange to see that comment on an emacs-list! I guess the same comment would have been made 50 years ago when C came out and Fortran/Cobol programmers could not find lower case on card-punch machi= nes [There are things called input-methods in particular tex-input method]=C2= =B9 Yes, unicode has more mis-understandings than understanding (currently) See http://blog.languager.org/2015/02/universal-unicode.html for the plus http://blog.languager.org/2015/03/whimsical-unicode.html for the minus =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =C2=B9 I prefer X-based input methods; eg after $ setxkbmap -layout "us,gr" -option "grp:caps_toggle,grp_led:caps" the CAPSLOCK becomes a 'greeklock' ie after pressing CAPSLOCK abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz produces =CE=B1=CE=B2=CF=88=CE=B4=CE=B5=CF=86=CE=B3=CE=B7=CE=B9=CE=BE=CE=BA=CE=BB=CE= =BC=CE=BD=CE=BF=CF=80;=CF=81=CF=83=CF=84=CE=B8=CF=89=CF=82=CF=87=CF=85=CE= =B6