From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francis Moreau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: page-at-a-time output for M-x shell Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <30a09a22-cd05-44b6-9b82-8a7e6c1796d5@x3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> <7bf1883b-3184-487c-a5a4-675f3e117342@l2g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <85269090-af0d-43fa-bd49-da265cbac558@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <87fxd1iy86.fsf@iki.fi> <6a088d78-bfa1-46aa-bf87-6efe4d875739@n30g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <874oth3se0.fsf@iki.fi> <76036640-c499-482c-81c0-9e0cb325e96a@k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> <87r5wk3o87.fsf@iki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247485300 16606 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2009 11:41:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:41:40 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 13 13:41:33 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MQJuW-0005on-BB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:41:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45145 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQJuV-0001pg-O7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:41:31 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 31 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.41.232.205 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247484433 3000 127.0.0.1 (13 Jul 2009 11:27:13 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:27:13 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: 33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com; posting-host=213.41.232.205; posting-account=ekTE0goAAADiVCThPmo4ph0C5bTUhQOx User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708 Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc9 Firefox/3.0.10, gzip(gfe), gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 grimoire.wyplay.int:3128 (squid/2.5.STABLE14) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:170826 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:66023 Archived-At: On Jul 13, 11:51=A0am, Teemu Likonen wrote: > On 2009-07-13 02:16 (-0700), Francis Moreau wrote: > > > On Jul 13, 10:21=A0am, Teemu Likonen wrote: > > >> OK, then it's probably me who fails to understand why do you keep > >> talking about "M-x shell" when you need a terminal. This > >> "page-at-a-time" feature comes with terminal emulation. There's no > >> need to make "M-x shell" a real terminal because there already is > >> one: "M-x term". > > > Ok then it's probably me who fails to understand the point of "M-x > > shell"... > > The documentation says "Major mode for interacting with an inferior > shell" (C-h f shell-mode). It's like repeated M-! but more convenient. > > > If "M-x shell" implements this 'page-at-a-time' feature, does that > > mean it becomes a real term emulation ? > > To make "less" work it needs some terminal features so it would heading > towards that direction, that is, towards term-mode which already exists. > Perhaps someone could write some custom pager system in shell-mode but > it still wouldn't make "less" work. > Damn, I repeat one more time: I don't want "| less" or less(1) work in "M-x shell" (hope this is clear now) IOW, I'd like 'M-x shell' to output in its buffer one page at time, and this could be enabled/disabled by a variable like "M-x term" does.