From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: temacs Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 20:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <87bokbb4zw.fsf@gnu.org> <83086e1d-d66a-4e0c-95a7-92d10a6de7e7@f8g2000pbf.googlegroups.com> <87r4t3krun.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <811ul1ds60.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <87395f4y94.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1341030013 30944 80.91.229.3 (30 Jun 2012 04:20:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:20:13 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 30 06:20:12 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SkpAJ-0001ys-TU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:20:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51051 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SkpAJ-00039k-Pw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 00:20:11 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!y3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 116.74.129.202 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1341029800 3950 127.0.0.1 (30 Jun 2012 04:16:40 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 04:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: y3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=116.74.129.202; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1,gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:193189 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85580 Archived-At: On Jun 30, 12:37=A0am, Ken Goldman wrote: > On 6/28/2012 4:49 AM, Bastien wrote: > > > "John Wiegley" =A0writes: > > >> Thus, Emacs is already as simple as you need it to be. =A0Just don't l= oad > >> anything in your .emacs. > > > Which points at the trap many newbies fall in: adding to many stuff to > > their .emacs. =A0Some of them are just experimental, then get forgotten= , > > then you wake up one day wondering why launching Emacs takes too long. > > I think you've defined the wrong trap - starting emacs every time you > want to edit a file and then complaining that launching takes too long. > > If anything, perhaps it should be easier to install and use > client-server emacs. =A0Windows programs (Firefox, Office, ...) do that b= y > default. > > I have many years of accumulated code in my .emacs. =A0I load all kinds o= f > packages, some that I rarely use. =A0It doesn't matter. =A0I start emacs > once every few months, so 10 seconds doesn't matter at all. Parkinson law's says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law Work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion. Likewise one could say: Mess expands so as to fill the diskspace available for it