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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305713 Archived-At: --3a95d9620a714e88bf29f7fd9848c8cc Content-Type: text/plain On Sat, Apr 29, 2023, at 9:45 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 03:52:48 +0300 > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, joaotavora@gmail.com > > From: Dmitry Gutov > > > > But that's the thing: upgrading to a recent version of Eglot is not only > > for the more advanced user. Those can easily go the 'M-x list-packages > > C-s eglot i x' route. > > > > It is those who do the minimum customization and/or are just introduced > > to Emacs, can miss out with more likelihood the longer the steps to > > upgrade Eglot are going to be. > > At the risk of sounding like a broken record: introducing a new > command for upgrading Eglot has the same problem as the original one: > users of Emacs 29 will need to use a different procedure for upgrading > Eglot than they used before. But users of Emacs 28- would be able to use it too. So at least the docs could list just one method. --3a95d9620a714e88bf29f7fd9848c8cc Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Apr 29,= 2023, at 9:45 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 03:52:48 +0300<= br>
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
> = ;
> But that's the thing: upgrading to a recent version= of Eglot is not only 
> for the more advanced use= r. Those can easily go the 'M-x list-packages 
> C= -s eglot i x' route.

> It is t= hose who do the minimum customization and/or are just introduced 
> to Emacs, can miss out with more likelihood the longer= the steps to 
> upgrade Eglot are going to be.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record:= introducing a new
command for upgrading Eglot has the sam= e problem as the original one:
users of Emacs 29 will need= to use a different procedure for upgrading
Eglot than the= y used before.
But users of Emacs 28- would be ab= le to use it too. So at least the docs could list just one method.
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