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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250731 Archived-At: On 18.05.2020 09:58, Joost Kremers wrote: > > On Mon, May 18 2020, Richard Stallman wrote: >>   > I like it very much because it helps see the rationale   > behind >>   > keybinding. After a while you get to learn the bindings for   > the >>   > commands you use the most and you can easily explore new   > >> commands. >> >> For those that know Transient -- do you think it would provide that >> benefit too? > > Well, which-key simply displays existing keybindings. A package author > doesn't have to do anything, which-key just works. Perhaps I was wrong (sorry, not actively using either of the packages), and it's the which-key package that I was thinking about after all.